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Post by lisa colorado » 01-26-2021 10:29 AM

Because adults impeach people they don't like.

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Post by kbot » 01-29-2021 01:36 PM

Yes, look at Clinton.............

Stained blue dress vs an armed insurrection. The GOP is still raging on Clinton. Now, we have armed members of the GOP calling for members of Congress to be hung and a sitting vice president to be hung, and the GOP and its supporters are OK with that. Members of these "patriot" groups were caught planting mobs around the Capitol in advance of the riot, and a number have come out and said they acted EXPRESSLY BECAUSE of Trump's instructions.

And, n the GOP's eye's what Clinton did was worse than trying to overthrow the government and kill its elected leaders.

Says a lot.............. :roll:

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Post by Doka » 01-29-2021 02:50 PM

Your a little confused, I can understand why. Your Demorats, have already "Insurrected" the United States. You just have not noticed them in your pocket yet, (Coming soon to your house). It is a matter of symantics. We wanted to keep our Country, so now the Democraps come out with their "Labels" and accuse those that don't agree with, what They, themselves are doing, the have been doing this for years, for"Kool-Aid Brains, this is just Way Over Your head , it is called "Brainwashing", Gaslighting, since you can no longer think for yourself, (you and millions of others) . And the idea perhaps, you where just rencarnated to have "Slave Mentality" and can't help youself.

Just remember, that you are just a white boy, riddled with "Racist Rage", and that comes from the Party of YOUR
ALLEGIANCE. And your very besty Friends, who don't give a poop about you, that's sick

Another thing to think about ...January 6, there was over a million "Trumpers" there, if you really had seen an "insurection" you would only be looking at Ashes, where the Capital buiding Stands.



in•sur•rec•tion ĭn″sə-rĕk′shən►

n.
The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.
n.
A rising up; uprising.
n.
The act of rising against civil authority or governmental restraint; specifically, the armed resistance of a number of persons to the power of the state; incipient or limited rebellion.



sem•an•tics sĭ-măn′tĭks►

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The study or science of meaning in language.
n.
The competence of a speaker with regard to the interpretation of the meaning of linguistic structures.


Allegiance
An allegiance is a duty of fidelity said to be owed, or freely committed, by the people, subjects or citizens to their state or sovereign.
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Post by kbot » 01-30-2021 12:58 PM

Doka, Doka, Doka................

Looks like the goods are coming out about your boy. Brings "useful idiots" to new heights. Or lows. Congratulations Doka, in your sheer hatred of the Left, you've joined the Communist Party all to support Trump. The menal gymnastics you must go through.......

KGB groomed Trump as an asset for 40 years, former Russian spy says

New book interviewing Yuri Shvets and many other sources alleges Moscow rescued Trump’s businesses with laundered funds, directly tying this to ex-president’s affinity for Putin

Former US president Donald Trump was nurtured as a Russian asset for decades, starting in 1980, a new book claims, with Moscow actively encouraging the businessman to enter politics many years before he won the presidency and supporting him through numerous failed business ventures as it built a “deep” relationship with the mogul.

“He was an asset,” former KGB spy Yuri Shvets, who worked for the KGB in Washington DC for years in the 1980s, told journalist Craig Unger in the new book American Kompromat.

Unger’s book is based on interviews with numerous sources, including Soviet defectors and ex-CIA agents. In it he makes the assertion that Trump’s relationship to Russia as president — one in which he appeared repeatedly averse to criticize Moscow and often took actions seen as desirable to leader Vladimir Putin– was directly tied to his cultivation by Russia over long years.

The book says Russian officials repeatedly helped Trump get through dire financial straits over the years, providing him with laundered money to support his businesses.

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: His vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election,” Shvets told the Guardian.

Shvets said Trump first came to the attention of Soviet officials in 1977 when he married his first wife Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model.

Former President Ronald Reagan shaking hands with President Donald Trump and Ivana Trump during the State Visit of King Fahd of Saudi Arabia at the state dinner in the Blue Room, 1985 (White House/ Ronald Reagan Presidential Library)
When Trump opened the Grand Hyatt New York hotel in 1980, he bought hundreds of televisions from a Russian immigrant who was a KGB spotter and who highlighted him as a potential asset, being an up-and-coming businessman.

And when Trump visited Moscow in 1987, he was unknowingly in contact with KGB agents who launched “a charm offensive” on the real estate developer, Shvets said.

“They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery,” Shvets said.

“They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: It is people like him who could change the world.”

In this March 1988, file photo, Donald Trump stands next to one of his three Sikorsky helicopters at New York Port Authority’s West 30 Street Heliport (AP Photo/Wilbur Funches, File)
Shortly after his return, Trump first mulled running for president, and put out major ads touting the same talking points he would wield in 2016, criticizing US support of NATO and suggesting “America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves.”

In Russia, the KGB celebrated, Shvets said.

“It was unprecedented. I am pretty well familiar with KGB active measures starting in the early 70s and 80s, and then afterwards with Russia active measures, and I haven’t heard anything like that or anything similar — until Trump became the president of this country — because it was just silly. It was hard to believe that somebody would publish it under his name and that it will impress real serious people in the West but it did and, finally, this guy became the president.”

Shvets, stressed, however, that “it was not this grand, ingenious plan that we’re going to develop this guy and 40 years later he’ll be president. At the time it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.

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Post by kbot » 01-30-2021 01:03 PM

And then, there's always the new freak show.......

Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Controversies Are Piling Up. Republicans Are Quiet.
In a video from 2018, Ms. Greene falsely suggested that 9/11 was a hoax, President Barack Obama was a Muslim and the Clintons were guilty of murder.

WASHINGTON — Marjorie Taylor Greene had just finished questioning whether a plane really flew into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, and flatly stating that President Barack Obama was secretly Muslim when she paused to offer an aside implicating another former president in a crime.

“That’s another one of those Clinton murders,” Ms. Greene said, referring to John F. Kennedy Jr.’s death in a 1999 plane crash, suggesting that he had been assassinated because he was a potential rival to Hillary Clinton for a New York Senate seat.

Ms. Greene casually unfurled the cascade of dangerous and patently untrue conspiracy theories in a 40-minute video that was originally posted to YouTube in 2018. It provides a window into the warped worldview amplified by the freshman Republican congresswoman from Georgia, who in the three months since she was elected has created a national brand for herself as a conservative provocateur who has proudly brought the hard-right fringe to the Capitol.

In the process, Ms. Greene, 46, has also created a dilemma for Republican leaders, who for months have been unwilling to publicly rebuke or punish her in any way for her inflammatory statements, in part for fear of alienating voters delighted by her incendiary brand of politics and conspiratorial beliefs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/p ... icans.html

A Russian asset/ Putin bum-buddy in Trump on the one hand, and the crazy train in House Rep Taylor-Greene on the other. Looks like Moscow Mitch got out just in time....... :mrgreen:
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Post by Raggedyann » 01-30-2021 05:07 PM

The republican party will probably go down in the annals of history as a complete failure as they are too blind to see that democracy is a lot stronger than they are.

Lifelong Republican Donor Quits GOP: 'Absolutely' Now The Party Of QAnon
“If you stay in the Republican Party, you have to pay homage to Trump and I don’t do that. I don’t pray to any man," said Houston immigration lawyer Jacob Monty.

Lifelong Republican donor and activist Jacob Monty revealed this week he has quit the GOP and joined the Democratic Party, citing the deadly U.S. Capitol riot incited by former President Donald Trump as “a bridge too far for me.”

“I’m out,” the immigration lawyer from Houston told Erin Burnett on Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “OutFront.” (Watch the video above).

Burnett asked Monty ― who voted for President Joe Biden in the 2020 election ― if the GOP was now more the party of the unhinged QAnon conspiracy theory than of conservatives like himself.

“Absolutely,” he replied. “Trump owns the party and Trump has always loved the conspiracy theories and this is Trump’s party now.”

“I tried for four years to be a Never Trumper in the Republican Party but it’s obvious now, everyone is paying homage to this ex-president,” he added. “No one will stand up to him.”

Before the 2016 election, Monty served briefly on Trump’s Hispanic Advisory Council until the then-GOP candidate delivered a “combative, red meat nativist stemwinder” campaign speech against immigration. Monty later expressed hope for Trump following his victory over Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

On Friday, the attorney who campaigns for immigration reform acknowledged he didn’t agree with everything that Democrats stand for.

“But that’s the big-tent party, the Democratic Party is the party that has more diversity of opinion,” he said. “If you stay in the Republican Party, you have to pay homage to Trump and I don’t do that, I don’t pray to any man.”

Monty’s comments to Burnett echoed those he published in an op-ed this week for the Houston Chronicle, in which he revealed that “watching thousands of Trump supporters invade the Capitol literally brought tears to my eyes.”

“As the descendant of immigrants, I revere the United States Capitol and all it stands for. To see it desecrated — at the urging of a Republican President — broke my heart,” he wrote.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), with his promotion of Trump’s election fraud lies and efforts to overturn the result, “might as well have joined the insurrectionists in smashing the windows and rampaging through the Capitol,” wrote Monty.

“If my fellow Republicans are so blind they can defy reality and ignore the legal votes of millions of American citizens, there is no way I can convince them of the rightness of comprehensive immigration reform,” he added. “There is simply no room for me in the GOP any longer.”

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Less people want to be associated with Comrade Trump.........

Donald Trump's Lawyers Quit Just Days Before His Impeachment Trial Begins
The former president still maintains the election was stolen from him.

Two lead lawyers working on Donald Trump’s impeachment defence have quit, leaving his legal strategy in disarray with just over a week before his Senate trial begins.

Butch Bowers and Deborah Barberi, two South Carolina lawyers, left the team after a “mutual decision” with the former president, source familiar with the situation told CNN.

A second source said Trump had differences with Bowers over strategy ahead of the trial.

Trump is still contending that he was the victim of mass election fraud in the November 3 election won by President Joe Biden.

Three other lawyers associated with the team, Josh Howard of North Carolina and Johnny Gasser and Greg Harris of South Carolina, also parted ways with Trump, another source said.

It leaves Trump’s defence team in turmoil as he prepares for a trial starting on February 9 to consider an article of impeachment passed by the House of Representatives charging Trump with inciting the January 6 storming of the US Capitol by his followers.

It’s now unclear who would now represent the former president at the trial. His White House lawyers at his first impeachment trial last year, Pat Cipollone and Patrick Philbin, are not expected to be a part of the proceedings.
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Post by kbot » 01-31-2021 06:23 PM

And now for something completely different.........

After Trump bromance, Biden quickly shifts cold on Putin

After Donald Trump's four-year flirtation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Joe Biden is setting a new, colder tone -- unhesitant criticism, despite openness on arms control.

Biden in his first week has already taken Moscow to task on its arrest of opposition leader Alexei Navalny as well as its alleged hacking, election interference and bounties on US troops -- but also quickly moved to extend New START, the Cold War-era powers' last remaining nuclear reduction treaty.

Biden's approach is nearly the mirror opposite of that of Trump, who spoke fondly of Putin but whose administration tore up arms agreements.

The White House last week announced a five-year extension of New START but simultaneously said US intelligence would launch a volley of investigations into Russia -- including whether it was behind the massive SolarWinds hack which Trump, contradicting experts, said could have been the work of his nemesis China.

The new secretary of state, Antony Blinken, at his first news conference hailed Navalny, the persistent critic of Putin whose poisoning and then arrest on his return to Moscow have inspired thousands to take to the streets.

"It remains striking to me how concerned, and maybe even scared, the Russian government seems to be of one man -- Mr. Navalny," Blinken said Wednesday -- a far cry from Trump in 2016 taking delight on how Putin was had been "very nice to me."

US experts on Russia expected Biden's opening moves to reflect a longer-term hard line -- although they also doubted how much Putin was swayed by any US president, especially as he faces protests.
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The new GOP - The Party of Afraid of Everything........

Thanks, Trump — Republicans' victim mentality intensifies, despite reality

Thanks, Trump — Republicans' victim mentality intensifies, despite reality
© Greg Nash
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) says he’s being “muzzled” by the media. I know he said that because his concerns were published as a blaring front-page op-ed in the New York Post, one of America’s most-read news outlets.

In case I missed it there, I would’ve heard about it consistently on Fox News, the country’s most-watched cable news channel, or from many other journalism organizations that picked up the story — including prominent conservative news websites.

The senator’s column is part of a newfangled right-wing crusade against “censorship” that isn’t solely the byproduct of some genuine anguish over the First Amendment. More than anything, this push is yet another sign of how Donald Trump’s rough character and unforgiving nature have overtaken the conservative movement.


One of Trump’s signature schemes was to frame himself and his followers as “victims” of vague and powerful forces arrayed against them. He was especially outspoken about that at a Dec. 5 rally in Georgia, leading up to the special Senate election there. “We are all victims,” he said plainly. “Everybody here. All these thousands of people tonight. They’re all victims. Every one of you.”

When it comes to media, conservatives have long felt discriminated against by establishment outlets. But a couple of generations ago, they decided to stop complaining and do something about it. The result is today’s vastly altered media landscape where — if anything — conservative points of view may now dominate the national conversation.

The shift began with a move away from the Federal Communication Commission’s Fairness Doctrine in 1987. That doctrine required that TV and radio stations, licensed by the FCC, present all sides of an issue to the communities they serve. But many conservatives saw that doctrine as cementing a status quo stacked against them. As soon as it was repealed, right-wing media began to emerge. Its earliest star was Rush Limbaugh — but more than 30 years later, he is far from alone.

Now, nine of the top 20 radio programs are “conservative talk” — only one is listed as “progressive talk.” Limbaugh’s program reaches more than 15 million listeners a week; Sean Hannity’s about the same.

That dominance goes far beyond radio, of course. In television, Fox News is a dependable cable ratings champion, and the Trump years delivered growth to alternative right-wing outlets like Newsmax and OAN. The right-leaning Sinclair Broadcast Group — the nation’s second largest — owns nearly 200 TV stations across America, and has faced controversy over the years for inserting conservative commentary and programming into typically apolitical local newscasts.

In print journalism, this is a time of severe cutbacks for most local news organizations. Right-wing entrepreneur Brian Timpone stepped into that void, launching nearly 1,300 small town websites. These outlets often feature content commissioned by conservative think-tanks and political groups, along with articles about, say, the nearest Kiwanis Club.

On a national level, readers can turn to — and politicians can write for — the reliably conservative opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, one of the largest news organizations in the country and one of the most influential in the world.

The Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, as is Fox News and the New York Post. Murdoch also owns the Times and the Sun in London, several Australian newspapers, and Sky News Australia. His impact is unrivaled; in the mold of press barons from long ago, he rarely hesitates to use these platforms to express a political point of view.

There is something to (very) reluctantly admire here: Conservatives who built this formidable architecture of influence did not retreat into a cocoon of victimhood and grievance. They changed things.

But those changes make cries of media victimization today sound either cynical or adolescent. Hawley’s complaints focus on restrictions enacted by Big Tech, like Twitter and Facebook, ignoring a larger reality that no longer backs up this persecution complex.

Thanks, Trump — Republicans' victim mentality intensifies, despite reality
© Greg Nash
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) says he’s being “muzzled” by the media. I know he said that because his concerns were published as a blaring front-page op-ed in the New York Post, one of America’s most-read news outlets.

In case I missed it there, I would’ve heard about it consistently on Fox News, the country’s most-watched cable news channel, or from many other journalism organizations that picked up the story — including prominent conservative news websites.

The senator’s column is part of a newfangled right-wing crusade against “censorship” that isn’t solely the byproduct of some genuine anguish over the First Amendment. More than anything, this push is yet another sign of how Donald Trump’s rough character and unforgiving nature have overtaken the conservative movement.

One of Trump’s signature schemes was to frame himself and his followers as “victims” of vague and powerful forces arrayed against them. He was especially outspoken about that at a Dec. 5 rally in Georgia, leading up to the special Senate election there. “We are all victims,” he said plainly. “Everybody here. All these thousands of people tonight. They’re all victims. Every one of you.”

When it comes to media, conservatives have long felt discriminated against by establishment outlets. But a couple of generations ago, they decided to stop complaining and do something about it. The result is today’s vastly altered media landscape where — if anything — conservative points of view may now dominate the national conversation.

The shift began with a move away from the Federal Communication Commission’s Fairness Doctrine in 1987. That doctrine required that TV and radio stations, licensed by the FCC, present all sides of an issue to the communities they serve. But many conservatives saw that doctrine as cementing a status quo stacked against them. As soon as it was repealed, right-wing media began to emerge. Its earliest star was Rush Limbaugh — but more than 30 years later, he is far from alone.

Now, nine of the top 20 radio programs are “conservative talk” — only one is listed as “progressive talk.” Limbaugh’s program reaches more than 15 million listeners a week; Sean Hannity’s about the same.

That dominance goes far beyond radio, of course. In television, Fox News is a dependable cable ratings champion, and the Trump years delivered growth to alternative right-wing outlets like Newsmax and OAN. The right-leaning Sinclair Broadcast Group — the nation’s second largest — owns nearly 200 TV stations across America, and has faced controversy over the years for inserting conservative commentary and programming into typically apolitical local newscasts.

In print journalism, this is a time of severe cutbacks for most local news organizations. Right-wing entrepreneur Brian Timpone stepped into that void, launching nearly 1,300 small town websites. These outlets often feature content commissioned by conservative think-tanks and political groups, along with articles about, say, the nearest Kiwanis Club.

On a national level, readers can turn to — and politicians can write for — the reliably conservative opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, one of the largest news organizations in the country and one of the most influential in the world.

The Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, as is Fox News and the New York Post. Murdoch also owns the Times and the Sun in London, several Australian newspapers, and Sky News Australia. His impact is unrivaled; in the mold of press barons from long ago, he rarely hesitates to use these platforms to express a political point of view.

There is something to (very) reluctantly admire here: Conservatives who built this formidable architecture of influence did not retreat into a cocoon of victimhood and grievance. They changed things.

But those changes make cries of media victimization today sound either cynical or adolescent. Hawley’s complaints focus on restrictions enacted by Big Tech, like Twitter and Facebook, ignoring a larger reality that no longer backs up this persecution complex.

That is, however, one of the gloomy heirlooms Trump leaves the Republican party: a victimhood identity that appeals to raw emotions, divorced from what’s honestly going on.

Each TV program, radio hour, and opinion column drives home the reality of a brash, outspoken conservative media environment that is the opposite of Josh Hawley’s “muzzled.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/ ... te-reality
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OK..................... :mrgreen:

Trump to Defend Self After Receiving Law Degree from Trump University

PALM BEACH (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump will act as his own defense attorney at his impeachment trial after receiving a law degree from Trump University.

Trump bestowed the degree upon himself in his capacity as the dean of the Trump University School of Law, where he graduated first in his class.

In his first official statement as the lead attorney of his defense team, Trump vowed not to quit the team “like those other losers.”

Davis Logsdon, a law professor at the University of Minnesota, called Trump’s new status as his own attorney “problematic.”

“It’s true that he will now have a fool for a client, but that was also true of his other attorneys,” Logsdon said. “One downside of working for himself, however, is that he definitely will not get paid.”

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The new face (and mouth...) of the GOP.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says She Has Trump’s Support Amid Increased Calls for Her Ouster

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said Saturday she had spoken with former President Donald Trump, claiming he offered his support at a time when Republican leaders are under increased pressure to punish the freshman lawmaker for the way she has behaved toward colleagues, her embrace of conspiracy theories, and past statements in which she spouted extremist and racist rhetoric. “I had a GREAT call with my all time favorite POTUS, President Trump! I’m so grateful for his support,” the Georgia lawmaker tweeted Saturday morning. “The blood thirsty media and the socialists hate America Democrats are attacking me now just like they always attack President Trump.” She went on to “promise” that she won’t “back down” and “never apologize.”

A spokesman for Trump didn’t comment on the call and Greene’s office also didn’t provide any further details. But the alleged call comes at a time when Republican Party leaders are under pressure to punish the controversial lawmaker and some Democrats have even demanded her ouster. As more examples surface of her support of dangerous and baseless conspiracy theories and even her apparent endorsement for killing of top Democratic leaders, Republicans have largely stayed silent. The situation is a reflection of the divisions that exist among Republicans as the party tries to decide how it will move forward without Trump in the White House.

Sen. Mitt Romney, who was the only Republican senator to vote to convict Trump in the impeachment trial, criticized both the former president and the freshman lawmaker. “Lies of a feather flock together: Marjorie Taylor Greene’s nonsense and the ‘big lie’ of a stolen election,” Romney tweeted.

The alleged support from Trump came a day after Rep. Cori Bush, a freshman Democrat, said she was moving offices to get far away from Greene. Bush said Greene “berated” her in a hallway and said she would move her office “for my team’s safety.” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said he will talk with Greene next week, but it’s unclear whether that means there will be any actual consequences for the freshman lawmaker. At least 50 House Democrats have called for Greene to be removed from Congress. On Friday, Greene sent a warning to any Republican leaders who were thinking about punishing her. “If Republicans cower to the mob, and let the Democrats and the fake news media take me out,” Ms. Greene said, “they’re opening the door to come after every single Republican until there’s none left.”

McCarthy vowed to speak to Greene after reports surfaced of Facebook posts she wrote in which she discussed executing Democrats before she was elected to Congress. “These comments are deeply disturbing and Leader McCarthy plans to have a conversation with the Congresswoman about them,” McCarthy’s spokesman said earlier this week.

While some Republicans want McCarthy to send a message that makes clear the party won’t support lawmakers who back conspiracy theories, others are worried about what that will do to a big chunk of their supporters who are still loyal to Trump. And even though some are now trying to portray her as a firebrand outsider, the Washington Post details how many key party leaders embraced her in her rise to power despite the fact that her history of spreading lies and her penchant for violent rhetoric.
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Those damn digital footprints........

Text Messages Show Top Trump Campaign Fundraiser’s Key Role Planning the Rally That Preceded the Siege

Caroline Wren, a Trump fundraiser, is listed as a “VIP Advisor” in a National Park Service permit for the Jan. 6th rally at the Ellipse. Text messages and a planning memo show the title downplays the active role she played in organizing the event.

by Mike Spies and Jake Pearson Jan. 30, 10:50 a.m. EST

Supporters of President Donald Trum​p gather at the Washington Mon​ument to listen to the preside​nt address the crowd on Jan. 6, 2021. Later that day, the group walked to the U.S.​ Capitol and stormed inside. (David Butow/Redux)
Rioters on the front steps of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021
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In the week leading up to the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, D.C., that exploded into an attack on the Capitol, a top Trump campaign fundraiser issued a directive to a woman who had been overseeing planning for the event.

“Get the budget and vendors breakdown to me and Justin,” Caroline Wren wrote to Cindy Chafian, a self-described “constitutional conservative,” in a Dec. 28 text message obtained by ProPublica.

Wren was no ordinary event planner. She served as a deputy to Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, at Trump Victory, a joint presidential fundraising committee during the 2020 campaign. The Justin mentioned in her text was Justin Caporale, a former top aide to first lady Melania Trump, whose production company helped put on the event at the Ellipse.

Text messages and an event-planning memo obtained by ProPublica, along with an interview with Chafian, indicate that Wren, a Washington insider with a low public profile, played an extensive role in managing operations for the event. The records show that Wren oversaw logistics, budgeting, funding and messaging for the Jan. 6 rally that featured President Donald Trump.

Chafian told ProPublica that Wren and others had pushed her aside as plans intensified, including as a late effort was made to get Trump to speak at the event.

On Dec. 29, after receiving the budget, Wren instructed Chafian, via text, to hold off on printing event-related slogans “until we decide what the messaging is and we have no clue on timing because it all depends on the votes that day so we won’t know timing for a few more days.” The “timing” appears to be a reference to Congress’ Jan. 6 vote to certify the election results.

Wren’s services were enlisted by a major donor to Trump’s presidential campaign, according to The Wall Street Journal, which reported Saturday that Julie Jenkins Fancelli, the heiress to Publix Super Markets, committed some $300,000 to fund the Jan. 6 rally.

The funding commitment by Fancelli, who Federal Election Commission records show has donated more than $1 million to Trump Victory, the president’s campaign and the Republican National Committee since 2018, was facilitated by the right-wing conspiracy peddler Alex Jones, the Journal reported. Chafian told ProPublica that she herself had been directed by Jones to Wren, who, she was told, had ties to a wealthy donor who wanted to support the January affair. Chafian said the donor is a woman but wouldn’t disclose her name, citing a confidentiality agreement.

Fancelli hasn’t responded to messages left at numbers listed for her.

The Associated Press had previously reported that Wren was listed as a “VIP Advisor” in an attachment to a National Park Service permit for the Jan. 6 event issued to Women for America First, a pro-Trump nonprofit run by the mother-daughter duo Amy and Kylie Jane Kremer. Chafian had worked on and off with Women for America First since October 2019.

But that title gives little indication of the scope of Wren’s role in managing the “March to Save America” event, where the president would tell thousands of supporters to walk to the Capitol and “demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated,” the records show.

A guidance memo provided to VIP attendees of the Jan. 6 rally further establishes Wren’s centrality to the event. She is listed, along with three other people, as one of the primary points of contact for the demonstration. The Kremers, whose nonprofit was attached to the event, are not mentioned at all.

Wren hasn’t responded to requests for comment about the role she played in organizing the Jan. 6 rally. In a statement to the Journal, she said her role in the event was to “assist many others in providing and arranging for a professionally produced event at the Ellipse.” She was last paid by the Trump campaign on Nov. 15, a campaign spokesman said, adding that the campaign “did not organize, operate or finance the event” and any former staffers who worked on the event “did not do so at the direction of the Trump campaign.”

Since April 2017, Wren and her Texas-based firm, Bluebonnet Consulting, have received more than $890,000 from the Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee and Trump Victory, the joint fundraising committee, FEC records show.

Chafian, a longtime organizer, said that in December she met Jones “by complete happenstance” at the Willard Hotel in Washington. Not long before, Chafian said, Jones had had a falling out with the leadership of Women for America First. Chafian, who is a reiki practitioner, said she was “put in a position, in my opinion based on what I know from the universe, to clear that energy. To clear that negativity.”

Later that month, Jones contacted Chafian to discuss staging a January rally in support of an effort by Trump and his allies to overturn the election results and President Joe Biden’s victory, she said. He subsequently directed her to Wren.

On Dec. 28, Chafian texted Wren that it was her understanding that Wren was now “handling all of the funding from here on out,” and promising to get her the “budget and breakdown.”

By the end of December, after Wren became involved in the organizing efforts, Chafian said that Wren brought in Women for America First and that Chafian was ultimately sidelined. By that point, she had had her own falling out with the Kremers, leading her to start her own group, The Eighty Percent Coalition, which held a rally at Freedom Plaza in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 5 that was largely sponsored by Jones. The guidance memo provided to VIP attendees of the Jan. 6 event informs attendees of Chafian’s rally, inviting them to attend should they wish and noting that “registration is not required.”

In a video released the day after the Jan. 6 event, Jones claimed an unnamed donor covered 80% of the roughly $500,000 it cost to put on the rally that preceded the Capitol riot.
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Re: The adults are finally in the house..........

Post by kbot » 01-31-2021 06:46 PM

"Afterglow"???????

Without Their 'Messiah,' QAnon Believers Confront A Post-Trump World'

QAnon supporters, Timberg notes, regard Trump "not merely as their president and leader, but also as essentially a messiah." People with QAnon paraphernalia were well represented in the deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

Even If It's 'Bonkers,' Poll Finds Many Believe QAnon And Other Conspiracy Theories
"[They believed that] Trump was going to stay in office, that he had really won the election, that the various baseless claims of election fraud were going to be proven true and acted upon," Timberg says. "And that a bunch of Democrats [were] going to be rounded up and arrested and, depending on which version of this you believed, shot or hung."

Trump's departure from the White House and Joe Biden's inauguration as president left many QAnon followers angry and confused.

After the mob stormed the Capitol, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube on Jan. 6 banned Trump — and social media platforms targeted QAnon as well. Timberg predicts that pushback from the social media giants will likely mean fewer people will be engaged with QAnon but that the supporters who remain will be even more impassioned.

"Researchers have been saying to me for weeks that ... the QAnon believers whose beliefs survive the inauguration of President Biden are likely to be more committed. They're likely to be more fervent and more conspiratorial," Timberg says. "There is a real danger that what we'll see is a somewhat smaller but maybe more fervent and maybe more hateful and maybe more stealthy remnant that remains a force in our political life for years to come — and maybe also engages in acts of violence."
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Re: The adults are finally in the house..........

Post by lisa colorado » 01-31-2021 07:44 PM

Highest levels of employment, best economy ever. What a terrible president.

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Post by Raggedyann » 01-31-2021 07:57 PM

lisa colorado wrote: 01-31-2021 07:44 PM Highest levels of employment, best economy ever. What a terrible president.
No it wasn't the best economy ever!!! Go look it up. Trump inherited the economy from Obama. It was already on its way to success before puke face stepped in. But man did puke face ever sink the economy huh? Worst in history and so unnecessary. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands he killed in the process. He will go down in history as the worst pres the US has ever had.

Read:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

There are several credible sites that all tell the same story.
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