Posted: 05-26-2009 12:08 PM
This is so hilarious, for one the first to the moon were the Russians, it is also possible to detect the atmosphere of other worlds, and you can see the moon has no breathable air, if it did the result of Iron Oxides would be visible for all to see. Mr Lear has absorbed lies, and regurgitated them out. I know several people that build sensors that can identify atmosphere from a distance. Solar observations, in fact some of the latest technology designed to use VLF, and ULF radio to make observations of Solar activity have been developed right here in my home. We have a small lab set up here.
Russia was the first to take pictures of the dark side of the moon. H3 is abundant on the moon, and you can easily tell no breathable atmosphere is on the moon, you can see that with the naked eye, It is sad that John continues to provide false information. I have encountered many in the aviation world and from people that have come to know him, the stuff he peddles such as the mythical F-19 from Lockheed (I am not referring to the Lockheed F-19 CSIRS), no the aircraft that would have carried the F-19 designation was built by Northrop, not Lockheed, with input from Gen Chuck Yeager, I have seen this aircraft, and touched it, seen it in flight, the U.S. Navy uses them at Miramar, it is based on one NASA uses. John's claims are always higher than everest, yet lack any significant scientific backing. It amazes me how people can believe things that lack logic or evidence. If the moon had an atmosphere thick enough to be breathable, all craft that were to land on the moon would need a heat shield. The moon does not have enough mass, it has no protective electromagnetic field, and sorry physics come into play, and they do not allow an atmosphere to be on one side of a planet. Furthermore, through seismic detectors, and experiments done by both Russia, and the US, such as the use of the S-IVB as a hammer to ring the moon like a bell, a lot of information has been discovered.
It is interesting, when John makes a claim, he will include he will be attacked, predict people will call him crazy, on and on. Never is any information he puts out there does he obtain it first hand, it is always hear say. If you ask him to present any scientific evidence to refute current science, he will point out there is a big conspiracy. Again, credentials like being a former pilot, military service has no direct bearing on any claim that is not backed up with scientific evidence. You can't prove what is not true John.
7 Millibars, about 0.7% of Earth's thickness is what surrounds Mars. The lunar atmosphere is less than one trillionth the density of the Earth's atmosphere at sea level. So John, would you step into a hyperbaric chamber and test if humans can survive such conditions without a pressure suit.
Ahh, hey forget about dropping the feather and hammer on the moon, for them to land at the same time there must be a near vacuum.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v.1672206.mov
I'll stick with my current go to guy for science, which is Freeman Dyson.
Your comments on 9/11 are not even funny, I had a friend who served in Vietnam with Hal Moore. He died in the towers. So it really is not funny at all with your 9/11 claims.
Still, all this stuff makes great reading and deserves a science fiction award. My Money is on Scaled Composites will be the first to put a privately funded orbiter in space, and may just get to the moon, other corporations and Government programs will send people to orbit the moon, such like Russia's space tourism have plans to send paying customers around the moon within a short time span, so unless this civilization on the moon has giant platforms that will lower the settlements underground (No Doubt John Lear will think of something) to hide from the space tourists.
All of this, seeing these "artifacts" on the moon, though I do think it is possible that an advanced civilization on Earth may have been more advanced than what history acknowledges, I doubt anyone beat America to the moon. But it is nothing more than the same thing that drove Percival Lowell. The human brain always "sees" things that are not there. The human eye is terrible at sight, so the human brain uses a lot of processing power to allow us to see. So, if your not taking this into account, you will not see what is actually there.
So Michio Kaku, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Chris McKay, Jay Melosh, Seth Shostak, Frank Drake, and countless others are all part of the Conspiracy if you believe John, the fact is they are not, (well maybe McKay since his pay checks are cut by NASA) As it becomes easier to go into space, soon nothing can be hidden. But the dark side of the moon is not a mystery. John Lear's motivation, that is a mystery. I still think it would be fascinating to see an F-MRI of your brain.
These claims fall short, and are not backed up by any evidence. Rant and rave all you want how the big bad boggy man of NASA is covering it up, using mind control, on and on, you have still failed to prove your claims.
Russia was the first to take pictures of the dark side of the moon. H3 is abundant on the moon, and you can easily tell no breathable atmosphere is on the moon, you can see that with the naked eye, It is sad that John continues to provide false information. I have encountered many in the aviation world and from people that have come to know him, the stuff he peddles such as the mythical F-19 from Lockheed (I am not referring to the Lockheed F-19 CSIRS), no the aircraft that would have carried the F-19 designation was built by Northrop, not Lockheed, with input from Gen Chuck Yeager, I have seen this aircraft, and touched it, seen it in flight, the U.S. Navy uses them at Miramar, it is based on one NASA uses. John's claims are always higher than everest, yet lack any significant scientific backing. It amazes me how people can believe things that lack logic or evidence. If the moon had an atmosphere thick enough to be breathable, all craft that were to land on the moon would need a heat shield. The moon does not have enough mass, it has no protective electromagnetic field, and sorry physics come into play, and they do not allow an atmosphere to be on one side of a planet. Furthermore, through seismic detectors, and experiments done by both Russia, and the US, such as the use of the S-IVB as a hammer to ring the moon like a bell, a lot of information has been discovered.
It is interesting, when John makes a claim, he will include he will be attacked, predict people will call him crazy, on and on. Never is any information he puts out there does he obtain it first hand, it is always hear say. If you ask him to present any scientific evidence to refute current science, he will point out there is a big conspiracy. Again, credentials like being a former pilot, military service has no direct bearing on any claim that is not backed up with scientific evidence. You can't prove what is not true John.
7 Millibars, about 0.7% of Earth's thickness is what surrounds Mars. The lunar atmosphere is less than one trillionth the density of the Earth's atmosphere at sea level. So John, would you step into a hyperbaric chamber and test if humans can survive such conditions without a pressure suit.
Ahh, hey forget about dropping the feather and hammer on the moon, for them to land at the same time there must be a near vacuum.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v.1672206.mov
I'll stick with my current go to guy for science, which is Freeman Dyson.
Your comments on 9/11 are not even funny, I had a friend who served in Vietnam with Hal Moore. He died in the towers. So it really is not funny at all with your 9/11 claims.
Still, all this stuff makes great reading and deserves a science fiction award. My Money is on Scaled Composites will be the first to put a privately funded orbiter in space, and may just get to the moon, other corporations and Government programs will send people to orbit the moon, such like Russia's space tourism have plans to send paying customers around the moon within a short time span, so unless this civilization on the moon has giant platforms that will lower the settlements underground (No Doubt John Lear will think of something) to hide from the space tourists.
All of this, seeing these "artifacts" on the moon, though I do think it is possible that an advanced civilization on Earth may have been more advanced than what history acknowledges, I doubt anyone beat America to the moon. But it is nothing more than the same thing that drove Percival Lowell. The human brain always "sees" things that are not there. The human eye is terrible at sight, so the human brain uses a lot of processing power to allow us to see. So, if your not taking this into account, you will not see what is actually there.
So Michio Kaku, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Chris McKay, Jay Melosh, Seth Shostak, Frank Drake, and countless others are all part of the Conspiracy if you believe John, the fact is they are not, (well maybe McKay since his pay checks are cut by NASA) As it becomes easier to go into space, soon nothing can be hidden. But the dark side of the moon is not a mystery. John Lear's motivation, that is a mystery. I still think it would be fascinating to see an F-MRI of your brain.
These claims fall short, and are not backed up by any evidence. Rant and rave all you want how the big bad boggy man of NASA is covering it up, using mind control, on and on, you have still failed to prove your claims.