Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

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Post by drnewel » 03-30-2006 04:21 AM

All of the Culprits that brought down the Honerable President Nixon, have now ursurped the Government and have essentialy done the same things they did before. They are still hiring The Plumbers to break in and bug your apartments and read your mail, and steal your debate books.

The numbers are the same as during the Nixon White House because the black bag corps of Nixon have taken over the chicken coop now - the Fox and fox news have taken over the Chicken coop.

Pun intended. The Fox is running the hen house.

Instead of a failed play write during the Nazi regime rise to power we have a successful unstopable Government mandated propaganda machine running 24/7 like mind control screaming at us to invade Iraq.

OK...We invaded Iraq.
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Post by Squall » 07-09-2006 01:56 PM

sayntbrigid wrote: I saw him Spiritme........I noticed it and mentioned at one of Iris' threads....he has not been looking well, and now today he looked thin faced and very grey in skin tone.......I thought I detected a slight note of.....whats the right word......broken of spirit?

Maybe just tired or ill............dunno
Maybe he is actually showing signs of a soul. He IS a Texan, with all that that implies, and maybe he doesn't like stuff such as this whole North American Union matter, but obeys like the sycophant he likely is...lest, after all, he become like a certain other President (or something...11/22/63 seemed to happen for about 47 or so reasons).
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Post by Linnea » 06-01-2010 03:09 PM

...a trip down memory lane

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Post by joan roberts » 06-02-2011 08:35 PM

Linnea ?????

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Post by joan roberts » 06-03-2011 12:36 PM

Wrong year....Must be the weather, couldnt be me....

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Re: Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

Post by Doka » 05-22-2016 01:41 PM

Linnea wrote:"An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the right and courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself."

"Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together." --Joseph Pulitzer

This thread is from Linnea in 2005, very timely NOW. Well worth a read. (Don't know what I can get away with here, as it is a "locked thread"


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Re: Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

Post by voguy » 05-22-2016 03:04 PM

Seems like you posted OK. This was an opinion piece in a local Ohio paper. The paper leans pretty Libertarian. I think the author is spot on. From what I can tell from the fellow's Facebook page, he's a lawyer and follows politics rather closely. Of course now Ohio's politics is a den of vipers.

Thomas Lucente: Voter ignorance a widespread problem
Smaller, more local government is the solution
12:00 am - May 22nd, 2016

I have long praised the Framers for their insight in not only putting checks on the government but also on the people through such things as the Electoral College and the indirect selection of Senators (which we unwisely eliminated during the so-called Progressive Era).

They had little faith in the people and understood that tyranny of the majority was no better than the monarchy they abandoned. It is the reason they eschewed the idea of a direct democracy in favor of a representative republic.

As Capt. Benjamin “The Ghost” Martin, the protagonist played by Mel Gibson in the 2000 Revolutionary War film “The Patriot,” put it, “Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a king can.”

That is a variation of the quotation from famed cleric and royalist Mather Byles (a man related to John Cotton, Richard Mather, Increase Mather and Cotton Mather, the last two of Salem Witch Trial fame) who famously said, “Which is better — to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away or by three thousand tyrants one mile away?”

In the centuries since, the American electorate has demonstrated an amazing ability to do stupid things. Just look at this year’s primary elections for the two legacy parties in which we are now down to billionaire Donald Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, a self-avowed socialist … er, excuse me … “democratic socialist.”

So I was pleased to see Ilya Somin, an adjunct scholar with the Cato Institute and a law professor at George Mason University proselytize on this very subject on CNN.com on May 12. If you have the chance, pick up his book “Democracy and Political Ignorance: Why Smaller Government is Smarter” (http://a.co/foepIf3).

“Trump is far from the only candidate to exploit ignorance this year, merely the most successful,” he wrote. “The problem of ill-informed voters is certainly not confined to Trump and Sanders, or to the 2016 election; more conventional politicians often manipulate ignorance, as well.”

Somin shares my belief that the American electorate often acts in an absurd fashion; however it is not because voters are stupid but rather they are ignorant of the basic structures of government and have no incentive to become better informed.

Somin’s answer, and it is probably better than any other, is that Americans have more incentive to be informed about things that directly affect them. In other words, the smaller and more local the government, the better informed voters will be and the more rationally they will act.

Of course, in this era of growing government and our burgeoning police state, that kind of reversal is not likely to happen anytime soon. Meanwhile we are stuck with a large percentage of voters who lack a basic understanding of government.

Perhaps it is time to stop encouraging everyone to vote. There is little value in driving people to the polls who are genuinely ignorant about the basic structure of government and lack even a fundamental understanding of the problems we face.

To illustrate that point, Fairleigh Dickinson University conducted a poll in October in which registered voters were asked three basic questions about American government. Only 34 percent could name all three branches of government, 69 percent knew the Republicans controlled Congress, and only 21 percent could name John Roberts as the chief justice of the United States.

Overall, only 12 percent were able to answer all three questions correctly and 25 percent couldn’t answer a single one correctly. Republicans, by the way, outscored Democrats and independents.

As the poll’s authors wrote: “Americans don’t know much about politics, but voters who have been paying attention to the news and are knowledgeable about government structure and processes are much less likely to support presidential frontrunners Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump. … Clinton and Trump lead among voters who prefer to tune out from the news and are unable to answer basic questions about their government.”

Perhaps Trump expressed it best of all: “We won with the poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

Post by Raggedyann » 05-22-2016 04:30 PM

“For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing.” Simon Wiesenthal

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Re: Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

Post by lisa colorado » 11-24-2020 08:23 PM

prescient! I used to be an avid FF member and stepped away for a long time. Now I'm back, Pirates, and what is posted here means more to me than I imagined it would.

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Re: Our Republic and its press will rise and fall together

Post by Riddick » 11-25-2020 12:29 AM

lisa colorado wrote:
11-24-2020 08:23 PM
prescient! I used to be an avid FF member and stepped away for a long time. Now I'm back, Pirates, and what is posted here means more to me than I imagined it would.
Hey Now lisa, glad you're back & glad you find the forum to your liking & hope it stays that way. Looking forward to your continued participation!
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