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Why We Need A Pres. Tough On Immigration

Post by Biker » 05-26-2008 10:12 AM

Jus' cold hard facts, Folks.



What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament" -- 10/25/07.

She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while
visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "They (illegal aliens) pay rent,
buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20
million people go away?" That's a good question - it deserves an answer.
Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
The answers may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,
it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner,
safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English
became the dominant language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save
Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually
in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the
terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver
Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered
death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent
drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students
speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from
our gridlocked cities in Colorado.

Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working
poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State
back to America, the rule of law, and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
experience.

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' --

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would
return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a
living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they
wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401
Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for
local, state and city coffers.

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion
in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools
would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of
more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would
vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from
Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded
highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American
deaths by illegal aliens!

America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get
rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home
countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money
untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an
$8.7 trillion debt.

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,
costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in
California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being
bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases
rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and
grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns
of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our
greenhouse gases.

Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and
along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what
the New York Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is,
those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty,
filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without
sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation.
The New York Times reported them to be America's new "Third World" inside
our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect
20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas
and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing
our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million
people into our country legally more than all other countries combined
annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy
within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our
way of life.

Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should
vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they
are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare
to illegal aliens. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal
aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine,
and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost
of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...?b=deportation

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex
crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!"
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!
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Post by Shimmering Auro » 05-26-2008 02:28 PM

1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare
to illegal aliens.

Nearly one third of our household income is taken in taxes to fund these programs. We will never see one thin dime of that money. Americans are killing themselves to earn a living only to see it given away to illegal immigrants.

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal
aliens.

While working class Americans suddenly find themselves saving and scraping and struggling to put food on their tables. Working poor feeding their children hot dogs and macaroni and cheese. Illegal aliens (should they choose to) may buy lobster and fillet mignon-on your dime.

3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
aliens.

While legal working poor go without medical benefits. And those fortunate enough to have medical benefits through their job pay outrageous premiums, deductibles and live knowing that one catastrophic illness may rob them of everything they’ve ever WORKED for.


4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!

In our local school district some ninety three languages are spoken. An enormous portion of the district budget has been allocated to aid those children that do not speak English. Meanwhile… my children are forced to share BOOKS for their high school classes. The district claims to spend over $6000 per school year, per student. Where the hell is this money going? Apparently not toward purchasing necessary educational materials. WTH is going on here?

5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Not going to express my opinion on this subject. Far too volatile. Absolutely infuriating, in fact.

6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens.

Again, WTH is going on here. Why in the world are we incarcerating them? Get them out of here and off the dole. Gather these violent criminals my the truckload, cross the border and drag them back to Mexico. Three MILLION dollars per DAY to house, feed, clothe and provide medical care for illegal criminals? Whomever’s responsible for making the decision to keep them in our system should be strung up from the nearest tree. And no, I am not the least ashamed to say such a thing.

7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.

See #6

8. $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

That’s $90 billion. With a “B”. Ninety billion would go a long way toward helping hard working American citizens recover from the housing bubble. Perhaps a touch of tax relief. Maybe lend a hand to help the gulf coast recover from the hurricanes. But forget about legal, hard working American citizens. The illegal aliens come first. ??????? Now get back to work, SLAVE. You have illegal immigrants to support!

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.

What happened to a decent day’s pay for a decent day’s work? Illegal immigrants are part of the overall destruction of America’s hard working middle class.

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

See #6


11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine,
and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.

The mere fact that there are actual statistics on these matters means TPTB know about, and willingly allow terrorists to enter our country through our wide open borders. Who’s in charge of this circus, and why aren’t they doing something… ANYTHING to secure our citizens? WHY?

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost
of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.

Let’s examine this for a moment. $46 billion to deport illegals over a five year period -vs.- $338.3 billion per year to continue supporting them (and the daily influx of illegal immigrants raises 24/7/365). Is there even one sane person in Washington?


13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin.

AND collect welfare, medical care, food stamps, housing, etc., on YOUR back, folks. Heck of a deal, eh?

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex
crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States

Legal, hard working, tax paying American citizens victimized by sub-human scum that have NO business living within our borders. You know… all of us “useless eaters”. What kind of insanity is this? We are slaves to our victimizers.

To quote our very own joeqinn (once again)… It’s so OVAH.

And the people actually believe, honestly believe the next administration will somehow find a way to put an end to this insanity.

LOL. Just LOL. We're so far gone now ... it's almost comical.

Bright blessings to one and all. Brightest blessings... and best wishes. May you be blessed with the strength to find your way through these dark times.

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Post by Bobbi Snow » 05-26-2008 02:46 PM

The gang members wouldn't leave.

And what about the 50K illegal U.K. immigrants who are ALSO here without legal status? "Oh... but they look like us, and talk with a wonderful lilt in their voices!"
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Post by HB3 » 05-26-2008 02:50 PM

Lol...well, that makes sense.

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Post by HB3 » 05-26-2008 02:51 PM

Send back the Irish!

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Post by Biker » 05-26-2008 03:11 PM

Bobbi Snow wrote: The gang members wouldn't leave.

And what about the 50K illegal U.K. immigrants who are ALSO here without legal status? "Oh... but they look like us, and talk with a wonderful lilt in their voices!"


I'm all for sending them back home too, Bobbi, all of them.

However, it appears that you have, at a very early stage in this debate, decided to invoke the immigration version of 'Godwin's Law' rather than debate the facts.

Carry on.

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Post by Psychicwolf » 05-26-2008 03:11 PM

HB3 wrote: Send back the Irish!


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Re: Why We Need A Pres. Tough On Immigration

Post by SETIsLady » 05-26-2008 03:25 PM

Biker wrote: 1. billion to billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
Biker, this figure and source is referring to LEGAL immigrants, you have never held this position before so I just want to check with you, do you believe now that LEGAL immigrants have no business being here ?

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Post by SETIsLady » 05-26-2008 03:33 PM

9. 0 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html
$200 billion per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the Corporations that hire them. Prosecuted and jail any Corporate Executive that is found having illegals working for them.

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Post by Biker » 05-26-2008 03:40 PM

SETIsLady wrote: Biker, this figure and source is referring to LEGAL immigrants, you have never held this position before so I just want to check with you, do you believe now that LEGAL immigrants have no business being here ?


Not at all, Miss Lady-a mistake on my part.

I've no problem at all with legal immigrants.

I guess the 70s are catching up with my reading comperhension skills.

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Post by SETIsLady » 05-26-2008 03:50 PM

Biker wrote: I've no problem at all with legal immigrants.
Thats what I thought, carry on :D

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Post by vrpodpilot » 05-26-2008 04:32 PM

I think it's topical to remind all, that Mexico is controlled by a few, while the many live in extreme poverty. Mexico's elite accomplished this take over and control, by making firearms illegal. The Mexican people will not fight against armed injustice, when they can easily cross the border to provide for their families.
If we close our borders and expel illegal immigrants, effectively cutting off money to the average Mexican, they will have no choice but to rise up and take back their country.
I hear alot of Americans say that these illegals want to be Americans, but that isn't true. I go to places where normal Americans wouldn't dare venture. I've seen American Flag Decals turned upside down on rear bumpers of illegal's Cars. This means destruction to America and turn her upside down to empty her pockets.
I personally think the macho swaggering illegal Mexican Men that I am often around in the freight business, are cowards and need a good swift kick in the butt, so their made to stand erect and take back their precious Mexico.
Once the Illegals are gone wages would rise to a level needed by a lawful American citizen, to survive on.

When you look at Mexico, I believe you are seeing the future of America! Soon we won't have a middle class and no opportunities to succeed, unless your born into the right family!

Another topical point is that France and Germany did not side with America at the commencment of our present war, because they have been over run with illegal Muslims, doing the same jobs our Illegals do. The Europeans are scared of the Landscapers so they apease them. The more they apease them the stronger the Illegals get and the more they take.

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Post by joequinn » 05-26-2008 04:37 PM

So what's the problem? The gated communities are safe, and the rest does not matter...

How many billions of times do I have to tell you people: in the eyes of the people who truly run this country, you are nothing more than a filthy, dirty, sweaty, ugly --- and totally disposable --- wetback. And you always have been...
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Post by Biker » 05-26-2008 04:43 PM

SETIsLady wrote: Thats what I thought, carry on :D


Cooooold, Miss Lady - downright frosty!

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Post by vrpodpilot » 05-26-2008 04:47 PM

How many billions of times do I have to tell you people: in the eyes of the people who truly run this country, you are nothing more than a filthy, dirty, sweaty, ugly --- and totally disposable --- wetback. And you always have been...



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