NASA's biggest lie to be exposed.

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 02:03 PM

This yet another photo from LO of the north face of Copernicus to the left of the previous tank/silos. In this photo there appears to be one single tank venting vapor but the vapor appears to be flowing in a downward direction.

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 02:15 PM

johnlear wrote: This yet another photo from LO of the north face of Copernicus to the left of the previous tank/silos. In this photo there appears to be one single tank venting vapor but the vapor appears to be flowing in a downward direction.

note: the history on this Lunar Orbiter photo is 10 years or so ago I ordered this photo LO II H-162 along with some others. They were sent to me as 16x20 negatives which is unusual. Since at the time, 10 years ago in Vegas nobody had the capability to make a positive of a 16x20 negative I just stored it away. A year or so ago I tried again and found a guy that made me a 20x24 positive. I took that positive and scanned it in 5 separate sections. Then with photo shop enlargment found these items. There are a couple of possibilities. One, when NASA was airbrushing all these photos in the 60's they couldn't have imagined that 40 years later the average guy would have the capability of enlargement that we have today. The other possiblility is that someone, for whatever reason, slipped me an unairbrushed original which is why it came in negative form and included the 2 Lick Observatory photos of the moon, one taken in 1947 and another several years later. One of the Lick photos is 8 mgs.

Joolz · Post by **Joolz** » 08-18-2005 02:45 PM

johnlear wrote: One, when NASA was airbrushing all these photos in the 60's they couldn't have imagined that 40 years later the average guy would have the capability of enlargement that we have today.

I've thought this for quite some time now... they didn't anticipate the tech we now have at our fingertips.

Joolz · Post by **Joolz** » 08-18-2005 02:47 PM

And yes, kudos to Dale! Thanks much!

Dale O Sea · Post by **Dale O Sea** » 08-18-2005 02:52 PM

But being scientists from NASA they should know what advances can be made in a few short years.. That's awfully narrow minded and short-sighted of them. Must have been the bureaucrats that making the important decisions..

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You guys are welcome for the image editing - my pleasure. Most of these pix I still have on my HD from John's gallery when it was up. .

vigo · Post by **vigo** » 08-18-2005 03:02 PM

Dale OSea wrote: But being scientists from NASA they should know what advances can be made in a few short years.. That's awfully narrow minded and short-sighted of them. Must have been the bureaucrats that making the important decisions..
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You guys are welcome for the image editing - my pleasure. Most of these pix I still have on my HD from John's gallery when it was up. .

Dale please make back ups! I lost a bunch of scanned family photos that I had worked months on. I returned the photos to my relatives and then CRASH, ugh. I'm sure you already have, but just in case;)

In my new avatar their is an image of a moon lander and landing site in the eye of the alien. I thought it was interesting. I'll send you the wallpaper of it so you could see the detail...I found the wallpaper site the day John started this thread and it spooked me:eek:

Dale O Sea · Post by **Dale O Sea** » 08-18-2005 03:09 PM

Send it on, or just post the URL of where you found it.

I do fairly regular backups. Those pix and all my images are on at least a couple of my backup CDs or DVDs along with the original bitmaps.

Cpt Spike Mike · Post by **Cpt Spike Mike** » 08-18-2005 03:19 PM

By the way John, I "stuck" your thread to the top of the 'Conspiracies/Black Ops' section.

After extensive searching, I may have found the source photo for Al Bean's painted portrait. This is Al, shot by Pete Conrad, while they were between Sharp Crater and Halo Carter, collecting lunar soil samples.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Histo ... 7281HR.jpg

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 03:43 PM

Cpt Spike Mike wrote: By the way John, I "stuck" your thread to the top of the 'Conspiracies/Black Ops' section.

After extensive searching, I may have found the source photo for Al Bean's painted portrait. This is Al, shot by Pete Conrad, while they were between Sharp Crater and Halo Carter, collecting lunar soil samples.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Histo ... 7281HR.jpg

Way to go Spike! Thanks.

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 03:53 PM

Me and Buzz Aldrin at the National Air and Space Museum, Washington, D.C. April 23, 2001. I was there to accept the McGraw-Hill/Aviation Week and Space Technology Millenium Achievement Award on behalf of my father William P. Lear, Sr.

Dale O Sea · Post by **Dale O Sea** » 08-18-2005 03:56 PM

Kewl pic there in your monkey suit John.

Here's the visor only from the pic Spike found:

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 04:00 PM

Dale OSea wrote: Kewl pic there in your monkey suit John.

Here's the visor only form the pic Spike found:

Very nice refraction of the suns rays.

vigo · Post by **vigo** » 08-18-2005 04:03 PM

The shadowing seems wrong in the reflected image. The sun is beside him casting a normal shadow to his left (actually his right...this being a reflection) and yet there is a unusual shadow being cast in front of him. Kinda like the sun is behind him as well. Maybe reflected off something washed out of the photo?

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 04:03 PM

Celebrity mask obtained on the internet by John's daughter, allegedly signed by Buzz Aldrin.

johnlear · Post by **johnlear** » 08-18-2005 04:06 PM

vigo wrote: The shadowing seems wrong in the reflected image. The sun is beside him casting a normal shadow to his left and yet there is a unusual shadow being cast in front of him. Kinda like the sun is behind him as well. Maybe reflected off something washed out of the photo?

Correct and accurate lighting is a very specialized field. Sometimes it takes years to learn all the little tricks of the trade. Its possible they didn't have a whole heck of a lot of time to put this together. Say what?