Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
Posted: 04-13-2016 12:57 AM
The Next Generation
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Capitalism has been so successful hasn't it? The club that you and I and the rest of the 98% don't belong to.fos wrote:Socialism / Communism can never work. Too bad that is the way our society is headed.....
Now this is amusing. Do you know how many times I have been tempted to ask the same questions when I see all the whining and complaining on this forum about the system in your country? Excuse me, but which is it? Confused here. The very mention of the word socialism suddenly sparks patriotic content.Doka wrote:Raggedyann said:
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Capitalism has been so successful hasn't it? The club that you and I and the rest of the 98% don't belong to.
WE have done pretty well with capitalism. You own property, a house, a car, you had jobs when you needed, you travel, you go to the store and buy stuff from a huge selection of other stuff. And I would imagine you have a checking account, maybe even a savings account. You are free to come and go when and if you want to as you please. These are a few of the things that capitalism has provided the opportunity for you to enjoy or not.
Socialist communist Cuba is a classic example of the way you prefer to live? The tiny, low population countries that enjoyed their socialism, did not have to pay for their armies, because they have none or tiny for show. Even they are on the brink of disaster, the workers are paying for all the ones, that don't do anything. The money WILL run out. Once you get rid of the wealth on the top, the people in the middle class and the poor will suffer dramatically MORE!
But , I will tell you this, the rich, the heads of governments will NEVER live a life of socialism, that's for people underneath them. They will always enjoy the best of what capitalism has to offer. So when your hand goes out to pay for things, services, that some body else pays for there is always a danger they will say NO. You are never free.
I am not a fan of communism by any means - it DOES make for interesting read about "the ideals", but then people, put their own spin on things. Also, not overly enamored of socialism either, but I do see merits in both systems. All I know is, we can't go on trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.fos wrote:Socialism / Communism can never work. Too bad that is the way our society is headed.....
Different results?? So much crazy voter talk! More of the same, that's the Washington Establishment gamekbot wrote:All I know is, we can't go on trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.
You can't cut back government when spending on programs that particular political constituencies support is the gift that keeps on giving. That goes for both sides. Deficits are bad only when the other party runs 'em.kbot wrote:Even Hillary's campaign has stated that a proposed $1 trillion tax increase is heading our way under her administration. Really, we can't make any cuts in government anywhere????
"Social welfare"? "Corporate welfare"? Choose your poison........Riddick wrote:You can't cut back government when spending on programs that particular political constituencies support is the gift that keeps on giving. That goes for both sides.
So how do you feel about the taxpayer subsidizing big business? The corporate welfare situation! They refuse to pay their employees a living wage so you get to make up the short fall with food stamps, housing subsidies, and healthcare etc. Everybody else in business follows suit. Unions have pretty much been decimated and the Gov doesn't give a damn because the middle class is paying the bill and all these corporate and Gov a$$holes can live a great life playing golf WITH EACH OTHER at their fancy resorts, yachting around on the weekend and kicking back with a cocktail at the end of their day in one their mansions. No I'm not jealous, I'm pissed off.Doka wrote:Mean while back on "the ranch" socialism will never bring people up, but will always take them down. There isn't enough money in the world to keep the poverty ridden people, that demand the "Best" of every thing, from someone elses pocket. I call them "Poverty Tryants" and we have had a lot of those created in the last 8 years.