The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
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Amazing how some people think that taking from one person and giving to the other is compassionate, when those legislating the help fail to pay or legislate to pay less than than what the law requires. It's also amazing when looking at stats and seeing a community with 40% of the people on public assistance, with 18% of citizens on the tax roll, that somehow it's compassionate and shows we care.
Basically those amazing people have a flaw in basic economic, and have no answer to solve a problem, therefore they grasp onto the concept of Robin Hood economics.
Basically those amazing people have a flaw in basic economic, and have no answer to solve a problem, therefore they grasp onto the concept of Robin Hood economics.
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For the umpteenth frigging time I am not defending generational public assistance people.voguy wrote:Amazing how some people think that taking from one person and giving to the other is compassionate, when those legislating the help fail to pay or legislate to pay less than than what the law requires. It's also amazing when looking at stats and seeing a community with 40% of the people on public assistance, with 18% of citizens on the tax roll, that somehow it's compassionate and shows we care.
Basically those amazing people have a flaw in basic economic, and have no answer to solve a problem, therefore they grasp onto the concept of Robin Hood economics.
What do you suggest the WORKING poor do? Starve to death? Would you like to look in their windows and watch their children crying with hunger if they didn't receive food stamps? Why don't you have any anger towards legislators that force the tax payers to pay wages that businesses should be paying? What the hell is wrong with you? Oh I get it, only people like you should get a raise in pay. Where would you be today VO if you hadn't received a raise in pay over the last 25 years?
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Good vids.
I don't understand why the woman in the very first vid was crying though. I thought poor people in the U.S. were "comfortable" and "content" relying on public assistance after they get home from work. Who cares about these riff raff anyhow?
I don't understand why the woman in the very first vid was crying though. I thought poor people in the U.S. were "comfortable" and "content" relying on public assistance after they get home from work. Who cares about these riff raff anyhow?
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But I have to ask, what the hell is wrong with you and this notion that anyone who has anything is fair game to be tapped and stripped of what they have for the "good" of the poor. And no, I'm not referring to the Bushes, Romneys, or any elite. I'm talking about the average schmuck who is working 40 hours a week and has seen his tax rate triple in the past 50 years while expenses for his medical services and necessities went up by four times. I'm tired of being told I'm a monster for not giving away everything I have in the interest of helping the poor.Raggedyann wrote:For the umpteenth frigging time I am not defending generational public assistance people.
I realize we have to be compassionate for the poor, but to be compassionate you can't keep taking from those who have worked for what they have. And if you want to get jobs for the poor so they can survive, quit attacking the working class and make a serious effort to attack those in government who have gotten us away from a working state to a welfare state. And above all, tell your liberal friends to spend THEIR money first rather than asking others to spend theirs. Set an example, rather than preach and degrade the average worker for not doing their share.
Whatever you have saved saved, give up 50% of it this year to the poor, and then next year another 50%. When you and everyone else crying to give to the poor pony up, I'll be more likely to side with you.
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Yet nobody will push top make change. It might disrespect Hillary.
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Don't forget, both Hillary and Bill know what it's llike to be broke.
From White House to poor house and back again? Whatta story!
Hey, it's more Horatio Alger than it is Donald Trump.
From White House to poor house and back again? Whatta story!
Hey, it's more Horatio Alger than it is Donald Trump.
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The only thing that lacks more credibility than Hillary is one of her supporters.
The whole political system needs a huge cleaning with chlorine, and then a secondary rinse to remove those who still don't get it.
The whole political system needs a huge cleaning with chlorine, and then a secondary rinse to remove those who still don't get it.
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What Sanders is saying - and pointing out on his website, are the top American corporations that don't pay their fiar share of taxes. If you or did this, we'd have been locked-up year ago.
Does ANYONE think that Hillary would reverse this? I read an editorial today concerning the decades worth of infrastructure repairs and funding that would be paid for if these taxes were paid, but, we ALL KNOW that it won't happen under Hillary..........
List of America’s Top 10 Corporate Tax Avoiders
https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/up ... odgers.pdf
Does ANYONE think that Hillary would reverse this? I read an editorial today concerning the decades worth of infrastructure repairs and funding that would be paid for if these taxes were paid, but, we ALL KNOW that it won't happen under Hillary..........
List of America’s Top 10 Corporate Tax Avoiders
https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/up ... odgers.pdf
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No. I've dealt with, and known people like Hillary. She will do whatever, and say whatever is needed to get herself to a position to go after money. KBOT, we've known about her ethics all the way back to Watergate. We know her background. I just see anyone with any intelligence think that she has what it takes to be a leader.kbot wrote:Does ANYONE think that Hillary would reverse this?
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So much for her only speaking at a "few" events.
Basically, this is a way a group can give her money under the guise that she is exchanging services. Which technically she is, but the ethics of this is challenging at best. It's committing fraud in the open.
Basically, this is a way a group can give her money under the guise that she is exchanging services. Which technically she is, but the ethics of this is challenging at best. It's committing fraud in the open.
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This makes no sense to me. You are just darting around looking for a way to blame everybody but the lizards that are truly responsible for the phony economic system. Offering unrealistic solutions is a cute ploy but useless to the conversation.voguy wrote:But I have to ask, what the hell is wrong with you and this notion that anyone who has anything is fair game to be tapped and stripped of what they have for the "good" of the poor. And no, I'm not referring to the Bushes, Romneys, or any elite. I'm talking about the average schmuck who is working 40 hours a week and has seen his tax rate triple in the past 50 years while expenses for his medical services and necessities went up by four times. I'm tired of being told I'm a monster for not giving away everything I have in the interest of helping the poor.Raggedyann wrote:For the umpteenth frigging time I am not defending generational public assistance people.
I realize we have to be compassionate for the poor, but to be compassionate you can't keep taking from those who have worked for what they have. And if you want to get jobs for the poor so they can survive, quit attacking the working class and make a serious effort to attack those in government who have gotten us away from a working state to a welfare state. And above all, tell your liberal friends to spend THEIR money first rather than asking others to spend theirs. Set an example, rather than preach and degrade the average worker for not doing their share.
Whatever you have saved saved, give up 50% of it this year to the poor, and then next year another 50%. When you and everyone else crying to give to the poor pony up, I'll be more likely to side with you.
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Define lizards. If you're talking about many of the reps we have in the U.S. and Canada, then we're in agreement there. Most of these wankers are accessory to the crime of exporting jobs and promotion of a largely socialist state. This allows them power, money, and most of all control over people.Raggedyann wrote:This makes no sense to me. You are just darting around looking for a way to blame everybody but the lizards that are truly responsible for the phony economic system. Offering unrealistic solutions is a cute ploy but useless to the conversation.
So the answer is to get nations back to where there is work and the means to make income and revenue. Once this is done then you have the difficult task of telling people they have to work for what they want. In the meantime, the answer is not to suggest that everyone give up what they earn in order to pay people not to work. The welfare state has steadily grown since 1948, and it's time we stop it.
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//The welfare state has steadily grown since 1948, and it's time we stop it.
It actually started with FDR, or even earlier, possibly with the Tax act to "pay" for WW I.
It actually started with FDR, or even earlier, possibly with the Tax act to "pay" for WW I.