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Post by SquidInk » 04-14-2014 03:23 PM

http://gawker.com/the-astounding-conspi ... 1561427624
Mark Gorton is a prominent financier and a respected entrepreneur. He founded the music sharing site Limewire, and he runs Tower Research, a famed high-frequency trading firm. Gorton also believes that the "ruthless" secret cabal that assassinated JFK and planned 9/11 could be coming to kill his family.

Mark Gorton does not have a reputation as a crackpot. Quite the opposite. He's been favorably profiled in the New York Times for his business acumen and charitable deeds. His experience as the head of Limewire—which disrupted the music industry and then lost a 0 million lawsuit as a result—was closely followed by the press. And when Michael Lewis's blockbuster new book about high frequency trading was published recently, prominent media outlets turned to Gorton to learn what HFT firms are really like. The Huffington Post even dubbed him "the new face of Wall Street." He is a very respected and very wealthy man.

This week, we were forwarded documents that Gorton was sending out to employees at Tower Research. These documents—embedded at the bottom of this post—are essays by Mark Gorton, laying out his theories on the secret high-level murderous criminal "Cabal" that is responsible for, among other things, the JFK and RFK assassinations, the presidential careers of the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama, the Oklahoma City bombing, the 9/11 plot, and the murder of countless witnesses, politicians, and journalists who sought to expose them, including Sen. Paul Wellstone and even Hunter S. Thompson. Everything, according to Gorton, has been an inside job.
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Post by BenSlain » 04-14-2014 05:24 PM

I'm voting crackpot. :)
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Post by kbot » 04-14-2014 07:20 PM

I've often wondered about Senator Wellstone's death - I really liked the guy......
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Post by BenSlain » 04-14-2014 10:12 PM

But not every single thing is a Conspiracy. in fact most are not. It's really hard to hide stuff and keep secrets.
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Post by SquidInk » 04-15-2014 03:45 PM

BenSlain wrote: But not every single thing is a Conspiracy. in fact most are not. It's really hard to hide stuff and keep secrets.
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Post by BenSlain » 04-15-2014 05:35 PM

Last night I watched that doc about flight 800. They had me convinced until the end when they listed all the people who refused to talk to them. And I realized there would be over a thousand people from many different agencies and levels of government and private industries that would have to be in on it.
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Post by Fan » 04-16-2014 10:03 AM

BenSlain wrote: Last night I watched that doc about flight 800. They had me convinced until the end when they listed all the people who refused to talk to them. And I realized there would be over a thousand people from many different agencies and levels of government and private industries that would have to be in on it.
...like the atomic bomb. Or the stealth fighter. Or what was in Area 51 or the hundreds of other secrets we have kept very well. The bank bailouts aftermath. HFT scams. Military technology in general. FBI sting ops. When important people start dying grisly deaths it makes people shut up. I am not talking about flight 800 specifically, but I have no problem believing secrets are kept.

Pretty much everything is a conspiracy because that just means 2 or more people conspired to break the law. Very few illegal things happen because one single guy went and did it, and when we are told this is what happened (like JFK) that is pretty much the hardest thing to believe.
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Post by Fan » 04-16-2014 10:11 AM

When you read the stuff this guy has read you start to see that there is definitely some truth there. The degree to which we know the truth is entirely debatable, but we don't debate it, we call it conspiracy theory and forget about it. Conspiracies are real, we know that. What was fast and furious, or the CIA drug running? Conspiracies. Real ones. What is it when IBM bribes officials or HSBC launders drug money? Conspiracies. When the story breaks then suddenly it is reality, until then it is loony-bin theorizing to the public.
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Post by kbot » 04-16-2014 10:59 AM

Hmm.....

Interesting segment I heard on John B Wells' show from last week where the guest, Doug Hagmann, was discussing the inconsistencies in the death of Loretta Fuddy - the official from Hawaii who, conveniently, showed-up dead shortly after releasing a copy of Obama's birth certificate.

What are the chances? The mysterious death of Loretta Fuddy

What are the chances that the individual responsible for authenticating Barack Hussein Obama’s long form birth certificate, Loretta Fuddy, just happened to be the sole fatality out of nine on board a small plane that was forced to make an emergency water landing off the coast of Hawaii?

What are the chances that the other passengers either walked away virtually unscathed (according to eyewitness reports) or had only minor injuries while Loretta Fuddy died?

What are the chances that the engine failure just happened to occur over the Alenuihaha channel, recognized as one of the most treacherous channels in the world because of strong winds and high seas?

What are the chances that the only incident to mar the otherwise stellar record of Makani Kai Air just happened to be the flight carrying Loretta Fuddy, a most controversial figure in the most controversial issue relating to Barack Hussein Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to hold office?

What are the chances that the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the federal agency in charge of investigating even the slightest incidents involving civil transportation, would not conduct a thorough, on-site investigation that involved a fatality, especially a fatality of a high-profile state employee?

What are the chances that a passenger seated in the rear of the plane, publicly identified as Ferdinand Puentes (seen wearing a United States Federal Marshal cap) would not only have a GoPro video at the ready, but have the mental composure and clarity to record the “crash” and aftermath considering the unexpected, life-threatening circumstances?

What are the chances that this video, or at least portions of it, is suddenly released from nowhere, nearly a month to the day after the “crash” when its existence was never before referenced or acknowledged by crash investigators or survivors?

In my 25-plus years of experience as a career investigator, I’ve seen a lot of strange things that would give one pause and cry out for explanation. Odd things that at first blush seem to defy logical explanation, only to be answered through investigation as mere coincidence (yes, ‘stuff’ does happen) or indicative of something more nefarious. In my professional opinion, the strange death of Loretta Fuddy falls squarely into the latter category.

As I noted in my initial report dated December 13, 2013, Loretta Fuddy’s place in history was forever memorialized when she authorized the release of Barack Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) at his request. On April 25, 2011, the month following her appointment as Hawaii’s Director of Health, she certified that she witnessed the copying of the original COLB. The document that was certified as a true copy by Ms. Fuddy was handed to Judith Corely, Barack Obama’s personal attorney, when Corely made a special trip to personally pick up the document instead of sending the document by a private courier, such as Federal Express.

Given her role in the authentication of the controversial document, Ms. Fuddy was named in two affidavits (one public, one sealed) filed in the U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington on October 18, 2013, by Douglas Vogt, citing twenty points of forgery that comprise misprision of treason and misprision of felony. Vogt, with researcher and document expert Paul Irey, investigated the intricacies of the forgery. Mr. Vogt’s affidavit and Ms. Fuddy’s involvement gained national attention when he was interviewed on The Hagmann & Hagmann Report on December 4, 2013, exactly one week to the day before her tragic death on December 11, 2013. The detailed three-hour audio testimony of Douglas Vogt can be heard here, and the report detailing Ms. Fuddy’s possible role here.

Follow the money

Since her death, portions related to Loretta Fuddy in the sealed affidavit filed in U.S. Federal Court have been made public. Of particular interest are her financial reports detailing her income and expenses in 2011 and 2012. Each report is filed in January for the previous year.

According to Mr. Vogt, a large and as yet unanswered income disparity was found between the two reports. In short, during her first year as Hawaii’s Director of Health, which is also the time she authenticated Obama’s COLB, Ms. Fuddy’s gross income was reportedly less than $100,000. Nonetheless, her financials show that she apparently paid down her mortgage and decreased her liabilities by at least $50,000 and perhaps as much as $75,000 more than what she grossed that year. Where did that money come from? While there may well be a legitimate explanation for this disparity, it was not disclosed on the financial forms she filed with the Hawaii State Ethics Commission.

The crash & NTSB

Loretta Fuddy was one of nine people aboard the Cessna 208B traveling between the islands of Hawaii on December 11, 2013. She was making a much publicized, well known, annual trip to Kalaupapa, where the state exiled leprosy patients until 1969. That area is accessible only by plane or mule. By plane, the travel would require travel over the Alenuihaha channel, also known as the “I’ll-end-you, ha-ha” channel. Out of all the places around the Hawaiian Islands for a water landing, it is the worst of all possible locations due to the “wind funnel” effect in the channel. The channel is more than a mile in depth at its deepest point and is generally regarded as one of the most treacherous channels in the world by the United States Coast Guard.

Were it not for another aircraft flying in the vicinity of the water landing, it is possible that the passengers of the plane would not have been found until they failed to arrive at their destination. Josh Lang and Jaimee Thomson witnessed the Cessna making the water landing and were able to call for help. Within 90 minutes, a C130, two U.S. Coastguard rescue helicopters, one U.S. navy rescue helicopter, and one fire department rescue helicopter were on the scene.

As I noted in my initial report, initial accounts of the crash were conflicting and inconsistent. Such inconsistencies remain, despite the investigation conducted by the NTSB. Based on a review of the NTSB report (ID #WPR14FA068), no on-scene investigation was performed. The NTSB report pertaining to this incident was one of the most incomplete and un-sourced reports published when compared to other reports. Why?

The NTSB admits as much by a disclaimer that prefaces the narrative. This begs the question why, given that the crash resulted in a fatality, especially the fatality of a person at the center of a significant national controversy, investigators didn’t conduct a more thorough, on-site investigation?

The NTSB narrative also conflicts with eyewitness accounts. According to the NTSB investigative report, “[T]he airline transport pilot and two passengers were seriously injured, one passenger was fatally injured, and five passengers received minor injuries. [Emphasis mine]. This is inconsistent with initial and subsequent eyewitness and passenger reports, and now, the video.

During my investigation into this incident, I interviewed a veteran pilot familiar with the flight paths of the Hawaiian Islands. Speaking off the record, this source stated that he has flown this area for years and knows it well. He commended the pilot for the remarkable water landing, and confirmed that the Alenuihaha channel is indeed treacherous. He added that “(I)f I was going to cause a plane like that to go down [into the ocean] in all of Hawaii, that’s exactly where I’d want it to go down. Recovery would be very difficult if attempted at all.”

What are the chances?

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Post by BenSlain » 04-18-2014 12:53 AM

Fan wrote: When you read the stuff this guy has read you start to see that there is definitely some truth there. The degree to which we know the truth is entirely debatable, but we don't debate it, we call it conspiracy theory and forget about it. Conspiracies are real, we know that. What was fast and furious, or the CIA drug running? Conspiracies. Real ones. What is it when IBM bribes officials or HSBC launders drug money? Conspiracies. When the story breaks then suddenly it is reality, until then it is loony-bin theorizing to the public.



Well,sure some things. But other things people call conspiracies are not conspiracies at all. Cause we know what happened But they continue to lump them into that boat.. Fast and furious wasn't a conspiracy. It was a crime committed buy you know who that will never be reported on for political reasons except by the big bad right wing crazy news service who is on the other side of the political fence. Same as Benghazi, NSA spying and so on and so forth. And now we have the Government attack in Nevada! Very little in the news about that farmer. But it's not a gubberment conspiracy. It's just something we will never know the truth about because nobody will,investigate it except for,right wing nuts and late night talk shows.
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Post by kbot » 04-18-2014 06:06 AM

Which is why people are so suspicious of the government......
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Post by Riddick » 04-19-2014 05:23 AM

kbot wrote: Which is why people are so suspicious of the government......
If only more people were, IMHO we'd be in far better shape politically. But too many just go by the old rule of thumb: as stated in The Idiot's Guide To Equally Idiotic Conspiracy Claims, outside observers can know whether or not there's any conspiracies going on in government depending on who's being accused and who's doing the accusing -

For instance, say the observer is Left-Wing and the accused is Left-Wing - Is the accuser Left-Wing? Yeah, right. Like THAT's gonna happen? OTOH, in the likely case the accuser is Right-Wing, you can better believe it's THEY who are clearly staging a totally baseless politically motivated CONSPIRACY! (And NO small one at that...)



What else is there to know
When government insiders relay woe
Over how conspiracy abounds
On partisan grounds -
Like BOTH sides aren't there just for show?

When the pot calls the kettle black,
Ought not folks be taken aback?
In being suspicious,
We needs BE judicious
With any such talking head hack!

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