What would Jesus say about what is happening to marriage in

Lakeshore · Post by **Lakeshore** » 07-13-2004 08:35 AM

Just a question.
I am interested in your thoughts.

NeelyGirl · Post by **NeelyGirl** » 07-13-2004 08:47 AM

Wasn't Jesus all knowing, all loving...all accepting?? So I think he would be "fine" so to speak.

I can think of no less than 100 things that are owrse than same sex relationships or marriages...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07-13-2004 12:03 PM

Well since man created jesus to make himself feel better about his existence, any response to your question is going to be extremely biased by each individual human.

You can have responses from one end of the spectrum,

"jesus loves and accepts everyone and as long as they love god and each other gay marriage is groovy"

to

"He would destroy the perverters who want to destroy america and send the gays and gay enablers to the buring pits of boiling sewage"

Each response is going to be a reflection of the personality of the respondant.

If I were to answer the question, I would think he wouldn't really care, because it doesn't bother me if people of the same sex want to marry each other.

Panache · Post by **Panache** » 07-13-2004 12:54 PM

ShipOutofDanger wrote: Well since man created jesus to make himself feel better about his existence, any response to your question is going to be extremely biased by each individual human.

You can have responses from one end of the spectrum,

"jesus loves and accepts everyone and as long as they love god and each other gay marriage is groovy"

to

"He would destroy the perverters who want to destroy america and send the gays and gay enablers to the buring pits of boiling sewage"

Each response is going to be a reflection of the personality of the respondant.

Well let me give yaw'll a piece o' my personality. I too agree that he'd love us all, and in loving us, he'd protect us from the unconscionable wrath of bimbonic moral retards hiding behind religion, the veritable beasts of premeditated ignorance, hence, when it comes to the NeoCons and their plutocratic rape of Earth, he'd destroy the perverters who want to destroy America and the rest of Earth and send the NeoCons and NeoCon enablers to the burning pits of boiling sewage!

There are no excuses for the unconscionable malignancy pilfering our Earth today, and being aware of this flagrantly obvious truth does not make those of us who love humanity into communists, faggots, socialists, witches, tree-huggers, greens or greys, it simply indicates that we have not become the Stepford dittoheads of vacuous suckupmanship smooching salaciously the flauntulent fakers of religious folly. Earth, as a living organism, will inevitably respond in its struggle for self preservation.

Iris · Post by **Iris** » 07-13-2004 02:59 PM

PLEASE GOD, SAVE ME FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS

Lakeshore · Post by **Lakeshore** » 07-14-2004 08:24 AM

Neely Girl said:
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Wasn't Jesus all knowing, all loving...all accepting?? So I think he would be "fine" so to speak.

I can think of no less than 100 things that are owrse than same sex relationships or marriages...
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I don't think you understand Jesus well, Neely. He was loving of every person, but NOT of every action. Remember, Jesus is God and He inspired the writing of both the Old and the New Testament. He established marriage way back in Genesis as a MAN leaving his parents and clinging to a WOMAN (his wife). Marriage became a contract between God and humans through which many generations of families with and without children have been blessed.

He destroyed Sodom and Gemorrah because in these cities lived people who practiced the abomination of homosexuality - homosexuality directly flies in the face of God's plan for man. The destruction of these cities was done as a warning to us. Many of us refuse to listen because we deem ourselves too intelligent for God. We'll do what we damn well please..............

NeelyGirl · Post by **NeelyGirl** » 07-14-2004 09:46 AM

I don't think you understand Jesus well, Neely

Oh, Okay..is there a book you know of that I could read to help me better understand??

Remember, Jesus is God

Oh I was taught he was the SON of God..that Holy Trinity thing when I was Confirmed in my catholic church.. I must have not been paying attention.

"name the act of sodomy (sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation) " You do know that heterosexual people engage in these acts as well, it's not just for homosexual people??

I could sit here and quote scripture..but as we ALL know scripture, the bible and religion are up for a million different interpretations, so that would be pointless.

Look I was raised in a Kooky family but I did manage to learn that JESUS died for my sins, your sins, all the pirates sins... and that is that. He is a forgiving cool cat...and again don't you think that there are sooo many terrible things going on in the world that are worse..than people sharing a life together????

I wonder what Buddha would think off all this??

Burt Gummer · Post by **Burt Gummer** » 07-14-2004 10:12 AM

ShipOutofDanger wrote: Well since man created jesus to make himself feel better about his existence, any response to your question is going to be extremely biased by each individual human.

ROTFLOL.... That's going to be a "Kodak Moment" when you look Jesus in the face and say..."I thought man created you...didn't he??"

LadyAmari · Post by **LadyAmari** » 07-14-2004 10:34 AM

Remember, Jesus is God

Even aside from the fact that the earliest gospel was written seventy years after the death of Jesus, making it very, very hard to determine how much of them are factual words Jesus had said and how much were myths fashioned to fit the politics of the time, the Gospels as they were written do not explicitly portray Jesus as God. There was even debate for a long time as to whether Jesus was divine. A council decided Jesus' divinity, actually, almost two centuries after Jesus died. Up until that point, Christians were exceptionally varied in their interpretations of the divinity of Jesus. Sorry to digress, but I couldn't resist. I love tidbits of Christian history and enjoy sharing them.

As for my personal views on whether the Jesus portrayed in the Gospels would have been okay with homosexual marriage, I really don't know that he would have cared that much. The Jesus reported in the Gospels and the Nag Hammadi texts cared much more about the content of a person's soul than he did about their personal activities. Remember, he associated with the dregs of humanity and asked only a select few to abandon their livelihood in order to follow him.

But I can't say that Jesus would do this or that, and I think it's dangerous to presume anyone actually could say so explicitly. I don't think anyone here can (or should) presume to speak for God or Jesus. I personally would ask only that people live peaceful, tolerant lives with one another. Were I in charge, I would say anything less would be a much greater sin than anyone's sexual preference.

Iris · Post by **Iris** » 07-14-2004 02:39 PM

Lady Amari, beautifully said!

mudwoman · Post by **mudwoman** » 07-14-2004 03:00 PM

LadyAmari, thank you for your intelligent and cogent remarks.

Welcome and I am looking forward to your contributions here.

Joolz · Post by **Joolz** » 07-14-2004 03:54 PM

LadyAmari... I add my welcome and my thanks for your post here to those above.

warhorse · Post by **warhorse** » 07-14-2004 05:28 PM

Jesus did not destroy Sodom and Gemorrah , i think you can find the answers to how, why, and by who it was destroyed in the Sumerian text

Panache · Post by **Panache** » 07-14-2004 05:49 PM

Elmer Fudd

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I dwon't tink you understand Hey Zeus vweewy well.

Gwod be all'd knowdin', all wuvving...all accepting, 'cwept for you'ze wibberalls 'n fwaggwots, him be got a spwecial pwace in hwell fer you'ze heathens, fer you'ze not gwod's chillens, so I think he would be "fine" wiff me 'n deh west uf us in deh wed states.
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God bless you, Elmer Fudd, and that's an order, damn it!

inner dialogue with god:
God, please save us from your followers!

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 07-14-2004 11:16 PM

He destroyed Sodom and Gemorrah because in these cities lived people who practiced the abomination of homosexuality - homosexuality directly flies in the face of God's plan for man. The destruction of these cities was done as a warning to us. Many of us refuse to listen because we deem ourselves too intelligent for God. We'll do what we damn well please.............. [/B][/QUOTE]

I agree.

For the spooky predictions of Ed Dames ... that coming sky mess sounds an awful lot like Sodom and Gemoorah all over again.