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More Exorcists Needed

Post by kbot » 11-15-2010 06:51 AM

I read this in the Boston Globe over the weekend. A couple of years back, I ordered a CD copy of one of Art's interviews with Fr Malachi Martin, and have just finished read Nick Redfern's The Final Event which places greater emphasis on demonic presence in the UFO phenomena.

Just thought that it was a remarkable story being reported. The American Church has a such a sensationalized Hollywood version of exorcism, that I think, has done much to damage the rite which has a much deeper history in Europe than here.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=12131775

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Post by cherry » 11-16-2010 06:03 PM

How devastating .... :(

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Post by kbot » 11-16-2010 07:52 PM

cherry wrote: How devastating .... :(


Yes it is. Unfortunately, as I've noted, exorcism, as with many aspects of life, have been commercialized so much, and reduced to entertainment and seen as a vehicle to profit, that the role of the rite isn't taken seriously in American society. And, I'll be the first to admit, that there have been cases where, in hindsight, it's easy to ask why other, more conventional treatments weren't undertaken - as with a case that was reported a few years back in Italy that ended in disasterous results for the young girl involved. Whether you believe in the religious "need" for exorcism, or believe that all answers can be found soley through psychology (for example), I think that people in American society miss (and appreciate) the historical basis for exorcism found primarily in the New Testament - but also allusions to the concept of demonic possession in the Old Testament as well, not to mention the existance of such beings n other scriptures, such as the Quran. Many times Coast to Coast has offered programs on the dangers inherent in engaging in the occult, using ouji boards and so forth, especially for those who have very limited experience. Unfortunately, I had heard on a Boston talk radio station yesterday on the way home from work, that the Church was "hiring" exorcists, which is not the case at all. The Church was placing an appeal for already ordained priests to extend their calling and open themselves for additional training at a conference being held in Baltimore. Essentially, this is just a restatement of the injunction laid on all priest in the Acts of the Apostles to use the spiritual powers invested in them by the Almighty. Those priests who are trained exocists are so busy fielding calls for help, and travelling to the diocese involveed, that they are overtaxed. I have an old pre-Vatican II Roman Missal that I read from, and in there is an old version of a prayer to St Michael, that I have found to be of more interest after listening to Fr Martin. There is a line where it is referenced that Satan has already entered the santuary in Rome - this from a prayer in a missal dated 1962, that was actually written prior to 1962. And, I think back on the rumors from Fr Martin to Pope Paul IV regarding an alleged episode of satanically-inspired rites taking place inside the Vatican. Are these things "true"? Who knows for sure, but it's hard to argue with the feelings that many people have that there is something wrong with our society that can't be fixed by materialism alone. :(

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US Exorcists: Demonic Activity On The Rise

Post by Riddick » 03-12-2017 02:48 AM

A Look At The Growing Need To Battle The Devil

There is an alarming increase in demonic activity being reported by those who work in exorcism ministry, says the exorcist for the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. Although steps are being taken to increase the number of exorcists, demand is still outpacing supply.

Although the identities of most exorcists are hidden, Father Vincent Lampert often gives talks to warn against evil and turn people toward the power of God.

In an interview with the Register, Father Lampert said he sees an increasing number of people involved in Satanic rituals and opening themselves up to evil.

“The problem isn’t that the devil has upped his game, but more people are willing to play it,” Father Lampert said. He pointed to rampant pornography, illegal drugs use and the occult. “Where there is demonic activity, there is always an entry point,” he said.

Last October, Father Lampert met in Rome with the International Association of Exorcists, a group of 400 Catholic leaders and priests. It is a support group that meets every other year. According to him, group members agree that there is a great need for more exorcists.

Actual demonic possessions are rare, however, Father Lampert explained. “I’ve only seen three possessions in the last three years, but there is also infestation, vexation and obsession.”

He explained that demonic infestation happens in places where things might move and there are loud noises. With vexation, a person is physically attacked and might have marks such as bruises, bites or scratches. Demonic obsession involves mental attacks, such as persistent thoughts of evil racing through one’s mind.

“In possessions,” Father Lampert said, “I have seen eyes rolled back in the head, throwing out obscenities, bodily contortions, foul odors, temperatures drop in the room, and I’ve witnessed someone levitating.”

When he was appointed as an exorcist by his bishop in 2005, there were only 12 others. He said there are now about 50 other exorcists that he knows of personally in the United States.

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Re: More Exorcists Needed

Post by kbot » 03-12-2017 07:26 AM

There are things going on out there that we don't even know about.........
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)

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