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A theory ...

Posted: 04-30-2002 12:20 AM
by dansgold
Based upon my own observations, as well as a number of sources ...

I have come to the conclusion that Chemtrails are part of an experiment to block Sattelite imaging or high-altitude spy plane photography, etc.

You read it here first.

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-- dansgold
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Posted: 04-30-2002 02:06 PM
by Ninerism
Dansgold: Well, this is a new one which I sure never considered.

Do you think that the various peculiar bio-agents discovered within some of the residues discovered from chem-trails may be mere secondary results of high-altitude bio-matter being caused to fall to land; or might there be secondary interests also involved?

In any case, would you elucidate on your own theory, as this implies that the Russians, or someone, is being impeded from taking high-altitude spy-plane photography, or satellite imaging. Who do you think the enemy/enemies might be? Is it the Chinese?

Ninerism

Posted: 04-30-2002 02:35 PM
by Ninerism
Dansgold: Some years ago, in the mid-Fifties, in the San Fernando Valley area, about twenty miles north of central city of Los Angeles, California, there occurred several strange incidences of phenomena never witnessed before.

A white filmy substance was reported to have been found dropping from the skies all over the San Fernando Valley. When it landed on the ground, it would seemingly "vanish" into thin air within moments or several minutes. If placed inside bottles, it would also "disappear", too.

Finally it was dubbed by the media as 'angel hair', for lack of a better description, since no-one seemed to ever make an analysis of its constituent compounds, and it remained a mystery for many many years, or so we public were led to believe.

It turns out, many years later, I just happened to be reading a book or magazine which discussed that 'angel hair' phenomena, and learn that this was an ultra-secret experiement by our military to discover ways in which radar could be hampered.

It may have involved things regarding Skunkworks, too, in Burbank, where my uncle, as an engineer, was employed on Top Secret projects for many years. He would fly in planes to the high-desert areas of Palmdale, California, too, with the planes having totally blackened-out windows so none of the passengers/researchers/engineers knew, ostensibly, where they had been taken! However, I would think that the moment they stepped out of those planes and felt a rush of very hot-dry air, they would have known that they had landed in the middle of very arid desert-like environment. I donot know the extent of the secrecy of those flights; eg., if the passengers were blindfolded or otherwise dis-allowed from actually seeing the surrounding mountains and desert-scapes and notable Joshua Trees of the Antelope Valley which has pristine clear-air, great for seeing many many miles.

In any case, this 'angel hair', too, was another strange phenomena from the skies which did involve our government.... and oddly enough involved experiements to develop radar scrambling, so what you are proposing now does seem quite interesting to me!

Ninerism

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Posted: 05-01-2002 04:46 PM
by dansgold
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ninerism:
Do you think that the various peculiar bio-agents discovered within some of the residues discovered from chem-trails may be mere secondary results of high-altitude bio-matter being caused to fall to land; or might there be secondary interests also involved?
Ninerism
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I think it is largely a biproduct of the fact that the "chemtrail stuff" is made of some very fine-grained starch & sugar molecules, glutanizing agents, etc.

They are seemingly designed to be able to disipate in a fairly eco-friendly way. This could be so that they could act as a untraceable carrier for who knows what, but the pattern of activity leads me to conclude otherwise. If the idea was to act as a delivery mechanism for some other chemical or biological agent, the properties which cause these trails to disipate slowly and linger at high alitude would militate against such a use ... not a very accurate delivery vector when changing weather patterns could screw up the whole works.



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Posted: 05-02-2002 02:57 AM
by Linnea
dansgold - very interesting theory. Do you think most of the topography and military installations have been already mapped over the US? What do you think also of the idea that this material is being used as an antenna to boost haarp transmissions, and/or to pilot drone aircraft?

This stuff is too technical for me. What other ways could having such particulate matter aloft in the atmosphere be used?

We have had skies clear of chemtrail activity for the past week or so. There was very heavy spraying earlier this spring.

Posted: 05-02-2002 04:16 PM
by dansgold
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Linnea:
Do you think most of the topography and military installations have been already mapped over the US? What do you think also of the idea that this material is being used as an antenna to boost haarp transmissions, and/or to pilot drone aircraft?.</font>
I don't think that it is a matter of preventing the mapping of installations - as you note, that was accomplished a LONG time ago. Most of that kind of data is actually available to the public. I think it is more about realtime imaging & battlefield intelligence gathering.

I think - based upon a partial understanding - that such kinds of trails and the clouds they create would be of little use in increasing the range of radio signals. That requires very high altitude ionization. Something this low would be of little use. The best kind of ionization occurs after a large thunderstorm. The lower altitudes are cleared of particulate debris, while the electrical activity ionizes the upper atmosphere quite nicely. You can ask any Ham operator about this effect.



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-- dansgold
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Posted: 05-02-2002 11:03 PM
by Linnea
Thanks for the response, dansgold. Pursuing your theory, leads down some scary pathways. Also noted, is that the chemtrail activity predates the terrorist attack by a few years. An indication of a more ominous enemy? Earth origin, or galactic origin?

Posted: 05-05-2002 01:39 AM
by Ninerism
Linnea: It seems amazing to think that those chem-trails have been going on for more than a few years, and yet not one word on the Major Media! No wonder so many of us turn to ART BELL shows to find out what's going on in our world.

Ninerism

Posted: 06-03-2002 03:16 PM
by utah*gemini
After reading this thread for like the 1000th time, I finally got it. Out in our west desert (in Utah) there are all kinds of trainging missions going on at all times of the day and night. We get bombarded a lot here, especially right before the olympics, which our media explained to us that it was for weather control for the olympics... heaven forbid there would be no snow. Speaking of, we had (and I mean had) been in a very dry winter mode, until the attack of the chemtrail people.
I know something is going on, and I am not sure I want to know why. But I would like to know what they are dropping on us day AND night, so I could at least make the decission to stay indoors...
I enjoy the information I get from this website, I just hope people don't stop reporting here.
UG

Posted: 06-03-2002 09:51 PM
by LisaA
Hey, UG!!! Fellow Yewtawn! My husband used to be in the Air Force at Hill AFB when I met him.

Posted: 06-04-2002 02:33 AM
by Elk
We will continue to post UG, no worries there. But let me add this...
I caught myself doing something the other day that shocked me. I looked up and noted,yet again, chemtrails streaming across the sky. I said to myself,"Aw jeez! They're at it again!" And then I went on my merry way. After a moments thought, I realized that I had become complacent in regards to chemtrails. It now is so commonplace that we are getting used to it! We cannot allow that to happen! This is how the gov'ment works. They shove things like this down your throat until you no longer notice or care. If we slip into this trap, we'll NEVER know what the hell they are spraying on us, or why! Keep looking up and keep asking questions!

Posted: 06-04-2002 09:58 PM
by LisaA
Okay, or how about the lines of the vapor trails are being used to mark and measure for satellite photos.

Posted: 06-05-2002 01:21 PM
by utah*gemini
Hey Lisa... nice to meet you... I am a lifer here. Hahaha. Image I love the state. We were blasted again yesterday, but the clouds blew north/northeast. And since then it looks like we have a smokey haze in our air. I have also heard the theroy about "X" marks the spot for the satellites... hmmm
Elk.... isn't that odd, I have found myself doing the exact same thing. I am not sure if it is because there is not much I can do to change anything, or if I have been made to feel..... oh well, here we go again. go figure.
The problem I have is getting other people to believe me and stop looking at me like I might be a conspiricy therorist. (sp haha?)

Posted: 06-05-2002 11:10 PM
by Ninerism
Dangsold: I have recently been reading some very unsavory tidbits about the author, RICHARD THOMAS taking "liberties" with the chemtrails stuff. There have been numbers of attacks against him, some quite personally loaded. They make him sound quite opportunistic on this issue now.

What do you think of the guy? Is he credible on this issue?

Ninerism