Noory's first hour last night.
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Noory's first hour last night.
I demand Noory apologize to the millions of listeners who tuned inot C2C expecting to hear a progressive show dealing with the paranormal who were instead treated to the blabbering moralistic additude concerning that lady in florida with the tubes. I don't turn into C2C to hear that crap. He is ruining the spirit of C2C. Stick to the cue cards George, you do not have the personality or intelligence to act on your own. The whole day the story was on the air and news and paper, and what do you hear the first hour! The same crap that you heard all day. Jesus Christ. The whole spirit of that program is escapism. What does George do? You got it. What a horrible replacement for Art.
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George did a tremendous job on the interview regarding the lady in Florida. Where would you ever hear such an in depth interview on the subject? It was the only part of the show I listened to. You mean you'd rather listen to a scam artist like Sylvia Brown than a hot news story?
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I always thought the first hour was intended for hot news.
Doesn't Art always lead off the show with the hot/breaking news of the day followed by his comments?
Hour 1 is a review/commentary of the days events 2-4 are whichever guest/topic.
I see nothing wrong with that.
Doesn't Art always lead off the show with the hot/breaking news of the day followed by his comments?
Hour 1 is a review/commentary of the days events 2-4 are whichever guest/topic.
I see nothing wrong with that.
I agree that first hour was boring last night. Art has never mentioned that Florida story on his shows, he knows thats already been covered ad-naseum by the cable news shows during the day and evening - we want the paranormal stuff at night, not the same old stories from the news during the day. The problem with George is he is really a mainstream newsman at heart, remember he has said his "hero" is Walter Cronkite - so he is always trying to sneak in mainstream news stories. I prefer the weekend with Art Bell without all that boring stuff. Bupper1, you still need to fulfill your promise and stay away!
To be honest bupper1........Neither was interesting, but, Sylvia Browne, whether she is credible or not(I don't think she is), is what the show is about. Your comment will then be "so C2C is about putting scam artists on the air?" Yes it is. Even if they are bogus that doesn't mean they can't be interesting. I didn't learn anything new during Noory's first hour concerning that lady except Noory's lameness and boringness.
"Coast to Coast AM" is primarily a show about "quickening" and paranormal topics and should remain so. Even so, after giving the matter much thought I would not be opposed to more discussion of politics on the show. Since a Presidential election will be coming up next year, one program or so per week on politics would be appropriate.
Art use to devote many programs to politics until 1997. Debates between guests and callers as Art use to have would be interesting. Political guests of varying philosophies and points of view could be given a forum once again to air their thoughts in a less filtered environment, just as Art provided to us in the past.
Again, "quickening" and paranormal shows should remain the central focus of "Coast to Coast AM", however.
Art use to devote many programs to politics until 1997. Debates between guests and callers as Art use to have would be interesting. Political guests of varying philosophies and points of view could be given a forum once again to air their thoughts in a less filtered environment, just as Art provided to us in the past.
Again, "quickening" and paranormal shows should remain the central focus of "Coast to Coast AM", however.
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BadBoy wrote: The problem with George is he is really a mainstream newsman at heart, remember he has said his "hero" is Walter Cronkite.
to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen:
"George, I served with Walter Cronkite. I knew Walter Cronkite. Walter Cronkite was a friend of mine. George, you're no Walter Cronkite".
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I was not going to say anything about the first hour of last night's show. After all, I have made my position on Prem Rad's ownership of Coast-to-Coast and of Noory's stewardship of the program as clear as I possibly can, and I do not want to antagonize people by sounding like a broken record.
And then I came across this thread...
I have no position on the Schiavo situation. Of course, I feel sorry for the woman, but I do not have a clear fix on her medical condition, so I do not know which side is right in this particular matter. I honestly have no opinion, because I do not feel that I have enough facts...
Art Bell would have mentioned the Schiavo controversy during his preliminary remarks, but he would have given it only a minute or two of narration/commentary. If there would have been extended discussion of the case, then it would have been part of an interview between Art and a bioethical authority, and the Schiavo case would have been discussed as an example of a more profound trend in medicine and/or bioethics.
Art would not have done what Noory did last night, viz. choose one side of the controversy, pure and simple, and devote the resources of his show to an out-n-out advocacy of that one side. Noory specifically stated that he usually does not do such advocacy but that he was going to do it in this particular case because he feels strongly about the matter. So he turned the microphone over to Schiavo's brother and then told him at the end of the interview that the resources of the show were at the brother's disposal at any time...
I do not like that use of Coast-to-Coast at all. Yes, even if the Schiavo family's side of the case turns out to be the correct one. But I am not running the show. Noory is. He knows now, as a result of his long-term contract with Prem Rad, that he "owns" the show, and he is going to start using it for purposes that he deems proper. If I --- or anybody else --- does not like it, we can turn the radio off, since there are far more where we came from (as the rising ratings for Noory's portion of the show indicate).
Everything goes back to Prem Rad's acquisition of the show in 1998. Prior to that time, Coast-to-Coast was a countercultural show designated for a countercultural audience; after that time, Coast-to-Coast was a mainstream show designated for a mainstream audience. The countercultural focus on the paranormal (including the ufological) has given way to a mainstream focus on current events. That's the way it is, and we are going to be seeing more of it in the future. And Noory has done just about all the apologizing for it that he is going to do. We know where the door is if we don't like what's going on in the room...
I repeat, I was not going to mention this, until I saw this thread. But I sensed it last night. And I did not like it. But so what, huh?
Regards and best wishes to you all,
Joe Quinn
And then I came across this thread...
I have no position on the Schiavo situation. Of course, I feel sorry for the woman, but I do not have a clear fix on her medical condition, so I do not know which side is right in this particular matter. I honestly have no opinion, because I do not feel that I have enough facts...
Art Bell would have mentioned the Schiavo controversy during his preliminary remarks, but he would have given it only a minute or two of narration/commentary. If there would have been extended discussion of the case, then it would have been part of an interview between Art and a bioethical authority, and the Schiavo case would have been discussed as an example of a more profound trend in medicine and/or bioethics.
Art would not have done what Noory did last night, viz. choose one side of the controversy, pure and simple, and devote the resources of his show to an out-n-out advocacy of that one side. Noory specifically stated that he usually does not do such advocacy but that he was going to do it in this particular case because he feels strongly about the matter. So he turned the microphone over to Schiavo's brother and then told him at the end of the interview that the resources of the show were at the brother's disposal at any time...
I do not like that use of Coast-to-Coast at all. Yes, even if the Schiavo family's side of the case turns out to be the correct one. But I am not running the show. Noory is. He knows now, as a result of his long-term contract with Prem Rad, that he "owns" the show, and he is going to start using it for purposes that he deems proper. If I --- or anybody else --- does not like it, we can turn the radio off, since there are far more where we came from (as the rising ratings for Noory's portion of the show indicate).
Everything goes back to Prem Rad's acquisition of the show in 1998. Prior to that time, Coast-to-Coast was a countercultural show designated for a countercultural audience; after that time, Coast-to-Coast was a mainstream show designated for a mainstream audience. The countercultural focus on the paranormal (including the ufological) has given way to a mainstream focus on current events. That's the way it is, and we are going to be seeing more of it in the future. And Noory has done just about all the apologizing for it that he is going to do. We know where the door is if we don't like what's going on in the room...
I repeat, I was not going to mention this, until I saw this thread. But I sensed it last night. And I did not like it. But so what, huh?
Regards and best wishes to you all,
Joe Quinn
"Fuggedah about it, Jake --- it's Chinatown!"
It's entertainment,
didn't even listen to it---it's all over every news source anyway----
When Art feels strongly about something, he says so---so does George, and both will program people to comment---diffrn't strokes fer diffrn't folks.
When Art feels strongly about something, he says so---so does George, and both will program people to comment---diffrn't strokes fer diffrn't folks.
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CC/PremRat and Snoory want to repeat and regurgitate the daily news because they want the show to be a regular news program. But they can’t change it overnight without compromising the listening base. It has to be gradual. Hence, currently we still hear a few shows relating to metaphysical episodes, UFO's and alien encounters.
Yes, Art reads the news also but not the news we heard 10 minutes before at the top of the hour. Usually variant divagating news. Which is refreshing. The ownership doesn’t care about redundancy however. Their Clear objective is bringing it around to a more mainstream driven and a more conservative tinted show. Like the rest of the list of their on-air talent. It is all so very political. To object to anything concerning their obvious objective otherwise would be so very naïve to say the least.
Yes, Art reads the news also but not the news we heard 10 minutes before at the top of the hour. Usually variant divagating news. Which is refreshing. The ownership doesn’t care about redundancy however. Their Clear objective is bringing it around to a more mainstream driven and a more conservative tinted show. Like the rest of the list of their on-air talent. It is all so very political. To object to anything concerning their obvious objective otherwise would be so very naïve to say the least.
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Yes, spaceprophet, I believe that you are right, and yes, I believe that we are going to witness a progressive degeneration of Coast-to-Coast over the next couple of years.
Who is the villain here? "Prem Rad" in the short run, and "Bush" in the medium run. But in the long run, however, both Prem Rad and Bush are but instruments of something far deeper and far darker. And what is that something? Very, very few people are willing to give it a name, and I myself took several decades before I could summon the moral courage to name the name. The ultimate villain here --- which both "Prem Rad" and "Bush" serve --- is bourgeois mainstream life.
Bourgeois mainstream people will tell you that they are merely average Joes and Janes who are trying to live "the American Dream." What they really are --- and, let me repeat, it has taken me decades to get to this point of view --- are a herd of murderous swine who exist to play one-upmanship games while they are consuming everything in sight and procreating like hell to continue both the pointless gamesmanship and the conspicuous consumption. Stripped of all the self-promotional rhetoric, that is all that bourgeois mainstream life ever was, ever can be, and ever is. And precisely by being what it is, bourgeois mainstream life is the enemy of both the planet and the long-term survival of the human race. Hence its inherent and irradicable evil.
Folks, if you want to know why Coast-to-Coast is going to be destroyed and why Bush is going to be elected in November of 2004, look out your front window. And maybe, just maybe, you should look in your bathroom mirror as well...
Regards and best wishes to you all,
Joe Quinn
Who is the villain here? "Prem Rad" in the short run, and "Bush" in the medium run. But in the long run, however, both Prem Rad and Bush are but instruments of something far deeper and far darker. And what is that something? Very, very few people are willing to give it a name, and I myself took several decades before I could summon the moral courage to name the name. The ultimate villain here --- which both "Prem Rad" and "Bush" serve --- is bourgeois mainstream life.
Bourgeois mainstream people will tell you that they are merely average Joes and Janes who are trying to live "the American Dream." What they really are --- and, let me repeat, it has taken me decades to get to this point of view --- are a herd of murderous swine who exist to play one-upmanship games while they are consuming everything in sight and procreating like hell to continue both the pointless gamesmanship and the conspicuous consumption. Stripped of all the self-promotional rhetoric, that is all that bourgeois mainstream life ever was, ever can be, and ever is. And precisely by being what it is, bourgeois mainstream life is the enemy of both the planet and the long-term survival of the human race. Hence its inherent and irradicable evil.
Folks, if you want to know why Coast-to-Coast is going to be destroyed and why Bush is going to be elected in November of 2004, look out your front window. And maybe, just maybe, you should look in your bathroom mirror as well...
Regards and best wishes to you all,
Joe Quinn
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"Fuggedah about it, Jake --- it's Chinatown!"
Well Joe, i always love it when you can get a rise out of me..
It's nothing really more then a pinch, just to see if i am still alive..
Speaking of alive.. that poor women, who is laying in bed day after day, being kept alive with a feeding tube, really in spirit hasn't given up the ghost, yet..
Her life, or her death, is' making headline news..
It's a political ploy being used by mainsteam media, like GN' i mean.. and all else to turn your head to a moral issue' when the world is going to hell in a handbasket'.
Who for one looks like a hero- right Jeb Bush' excuse me while i puke'..
Hmm m' while the other Top Bush brother is spending the money of your great grand children, hope they can find a job to pay the 45 percent taxes' on the work they might find here in the US.. as jobs drift over seas..'
This type of path will soon make America a waste land, as we waste more then any people who have ever lived on the planet.
I won't go into all the negatives, because you all' already know, but yes..
Let's focus in on Good ole' GN', ya.. is he a happy guy? Does he come home at night to an empty' what is that bed he pushes all the time?.. or go out to an after hour bar' many in LA'
Does he do his homework besides luking here and there..
Questions i wonder about'..
I think he is just an average guy, doing an average job on the 'Once hot' and bothered' c2c, that Art created, only with his curious mind.. and since of .. excitement.
along with his gift of talk, yep the Art of Talk'..
As for ole' GN, ya, he has an agenda' , for one thing, think back to those hot' years with Art Bell' 97,98,99, 2000.. well now yrs. have passed, yes we get older, but so do the kids that we used to put to bed at 10' o'clock.. yep, there up and listening now.. (some of them)...
GN panders to them alot' you hear it all the time'.. I say Kool'.. to them too' have their wildcard line'...
But in the meantime..
Hey do you feel like someone pulled out our' feeding tube?
Starvation' is one hell of a way to go' ... in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Hey.. your eyes are getting heavier, and heavier' .. soon to be just sleep walking thru life', bill paying customers, of the NWO'..
smile, you may like it.
It's nothing really more then a pinch, just to see if i am still alive..
Speaking of alive.. that poor women, who is laying in bed day after day, being kept alive with a feeding tube, really in spirit hasn't given up the ghost, yet..
Her life, or her death, is' making headline news..
It's a political ploy being used by mainsteam media, like GN' i mean.. and all else to turn your head to a moral issue' when the world is going to hell in a handbasket'.
Who for one looks like a hero- right Jeb Bush' excuse me while i puke'..
Hmm m' while the other Top Bush brother is spending the money of your great grand children, hope they can find a job to pay the 45 percent taxes' on the work they might find here in the US.. as jobs drift over seas..'
This type of path will soon make America a waste land, as we waste more then any people who have ever lived on the planet.
I won't go into all the negatives, because you all' already know, but yes..
Let's focus in on Good ole' GN', ya.. is he a happy guy? Does he come home at night to an empty' what is that bed he pushes all the time?.. or go out to an after hour bar' many in LA'
Does he do his homework besides luking here and there..
Questions i wonder about'..
I think he is just an average guy, doing an average job on the 'Once hot' and bothered' c2c, that Art created, only with his curious mind.. and since of .. excitement.
along with his gift of talk, yep the Art of Talk'..
As for ole' GN, ya, he has an agenda' , for one thing, think back to those hot' years with Art Bell' 97,98,99, 2000.. well now yrs. have passed, yes we get older, but so do the kids that we used to put to bed at 10' o'clock.. yep, there up and listening now.. (some of them)...
GN panders to them alot' you hear it all the time'.. I say Kool'.. to them too' have their wildcard line'...
But in the meantime..
Hey do you feel like someone pulled out our' feeding tube?
Starvation' is one hell of a way to go' ... in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Hey.. your eyes are getting heavier, and heavier' .. soon to be just sleep walking thru life', bill paying customers, of the NWO'..
smile, you may like it.
Joe I think you have it wrong there buddy.
And it greives me to say this but I think the Real problem is uncontrolled capitolism.
I'm not a commie(sp) but that just the way it is
Money rules and nothing else matters.
That's the bottom line.
It's no longer for the People by the People
It's for the SUper wealthy.
Those with the most money write the rules of our reality in their favour while those that have to work for a living have to live by the rules that they make so we may also survive, albeit under their rule.
It won't change! Thats just the way it is now. though it didn't have to be.
Well by golly I think I need me a beer after that depressing load.
And it greives me to say this but I think the Real problem is uncontrolled capitolism.
I'm not a commie(sp) but that just the way it is
Money rules and nothing else matters.
That's the bottom line.
It's no longer for the People by the People
It's for the SUper wealthy.
Those with the most money write the rules of our reality in their favour while those that have to work for a living have to live by the rules that they make so we may also survive, albeit under their rule.
It won't change! Thats just the way it is now. though it didn't have to be.
Well by golly I think I need me a beer after that depressing load.
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