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Post by Bellisima » 06-12-2009 06:38 PM

Car crash kills woman who missed doomed flight

Catching up with this tale of luck/fate/randomness/bad driving that's been reported by news outlets:

Italian pensioner Johanna Ganthaler and her husband, Kurt, were vacationing in Brazil and ticketed to return home May 31 — on Air France Flight 447. But they were late to the Rio de Janiero airport and missed the doomed flight, which crashed four hours later in the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 people aboard.

The next day the couple took another plane back to Europe and rented a car to drive to their home in the Dolomite Mountains of northern Italy. In Kufstein, Austria, however, their car swerved across the road and hit an oncoming truck.

She died instantly. Her husband is in a hospital with serious injuries.
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Post by Shirleypal » 06-12-2009 06:42 PM

OMG.........how tragic.

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Post by racehorse » 06-12-2009 06:50 PM

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Post by HurricaneJoanie » 06-12-2009 07:20 PM

"No one you can save that can't be saved...."

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Post by USSGoblin » 06-12-2009 09:15 PM

So, if they took the flight, would he have survived that crash too, or will he survive the car crash, and truly have side stepped death. i hope he does.
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Post by Bellisima » 06-12-2009 09:38 PM

HurricaneJoanie wrote: "No one you can save that can't be saved...."

Right, Bell, dear?
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Post by IvyQ » 06-13-2009 01:09 AM

hmmm, makes you wonder...

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Post by joequinn » 06-13-2009 11:03 AM

Near death research lends serious credence to the belief that one's life is indeed determined as to its length. Yes, self-abuse in various ways can shorten a life before its natural time, but it certainly does seem that "to everything there is a purpose, and a time to every purpose under heaven." Nothing less, and nothing more...

The whole situation reminds me of the Arab parable: "Once upon a time there was a rich man who lived in Amman. One morning he went into his garden only to find Death there, staring at him. Terrified, the man ran back inside and told his servant that he was going to Damascus to escape Death, who was waiting for him in the garden. After the man departed, the servant went into the garden and asked Death, 'why were you staring at my master?" Death replied, 'I was surprised to see him here. You see, I have an appointment with him tonight in Damascus.'"

I regard the idea of my life span as being fixed in length as a comforting one. As I move into old age, I surrender myself to the will of God, either in life or in death. In Its will is our peace, and trusting to Its judgment, I am ready to be nothing in the expectation of being all. God's will be done in any case...
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Post by racehorse » 06-13-2009 11:05 AM

Great post, Joe. :)
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Post by Bellisima » 06-13-2009 01:40 PM

A glorious post, Joe. Your words have given me sorely needed comfort.

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Post by Live365 » 06-13-2009 03:56 PM

After Ramona Bell passed, this was posted to the Forum: "I have studied this subject long enough to be absolutely convinced of one thing: no one is taken from this Earth until they have fulfilled their life's purpose, or until they have screwed it up so badly that 'fullfilling their life's purpose', is no longer an option." Since then it has become among my favorite of quotes, and I repeat to myself almost daily. Perhaps the Pirate that wrote it will recognize himself.
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Post by Live365 » 06-13-2009 06:45 PM

Addendum:

This thread has made me think, in a serious way, about my cousin Patrick, who was killed in the Minneapolis bridge collapse of 2007. (May I mention how supportive the Pirates were during that time!!) Subsequent video has shown that his was among the first cars to crash into the water, which actually brings my Aunt Mary Claire comfort. There was no suffering. His death was instant.

But every time I drive over the bridge of the Mighty Mo, I remember. What was Pat thinking that day? Did he know? Did God tell him? He had a wife and two kids. Was that taken into consideration?

I believe God has a plan for all of our lives, and when we pass, it is very peaceful. And rewarding. But when you are the blood sister of a 44-year-old who is already a cancer survivor, and the cousin of the victim of a senseless bridge collapse, you worry.

But I still believe! Thanks fer the thread, Bell. Good discussion...
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Post by racehorse » 06-13-2009 07:44 PM

Live365 wrote:



I believe God has a plan for all of our lives, and when we pass, it is very peaceful. And rewarding.


Stated brilliantly, Live. :)
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