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Post by Shirleypal » 08-30-2007 03:07 PM

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Except for waiting tables, bartending, barbers and beauticians, and hotel maids. Those jobs are just being filled by importing labor.
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Space we won't need these either, with no jobs who can afford to eat out, get their hair done or stay in hotels and then of course there where be no more people migrating to the U.S. the incentive will be gone.

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Post by spaceprophet » 08-30-2007 03:13 PM

So by that rationale, allowing the outsourcing of jobs Corporate America is actually contributing to the down fall of America.

Corporate America is actually helping the economic collapse. I never thought of that.

Walmart is no worse than Al-Qaeda. And the neocons are accelerating the collapse by throwing their enthusiasm behind outsourcing.

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Post by Corvid » 08-30-2007 03:29 PM

Follow the money.... it's just "bidness".

The new "cottage industry" might be the rearing of children..... some to feed the war machine, some to be sex toys for the investor class.

I am not sure what the going rate will be.

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Post by Shirleypal » 08-30-2007 03:33 PM

I don't know what the going rate will be either Corvid, but they can't afford me. :rolleyes:

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Post by ibme » 08-30-2007 06:30 PM

Just try and save your money.
The only problem with that is the current, and future drop of the dollar.

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Post by ibme » 08-30-2007 06:42 PM

I am not sure what the going rate will be.
Very affordable I think.

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Post by IvyQ » 08-30-2007 06:57 PM

Re: Ford and GM say factories in US face axe

what about the freakin' CEO's? they're making the big bucks... why don't they come down off of some of their pay? scum of the earth pigs! another excuse for big business to move east. pigs!!!!

CEO's for dinner!!!!!

hmmm, ham hocks with a pot of collard greens sounds tasty.

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Post by ibme » 08-30-2007 07:33 PM

budeone wrote: I work for Ford and have for the last 25 years. Yes, they really let the ball go right by them and now they have big problems.

I have my opinions of the Union and I don't want to offend anybody that may be a Union backer.

I can tell you as much as I DO NOT want these jobs to leave Bush has already seen to it that all our other jobs have left and there just be no other option at this point.
I would like to say first that I believe in unions. Never belonged to one, nor had any family member or friend who did. I still could see when I was young (18), that without them workers would have nothing. Yea, there were abuses, but the alternative is frightening. I'm so sorry you even have to think twice about losing a job that you have been doing well.

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Post by IvyQ » 08-30-2007 07:41 PM

ibme wrote: I would like to say first that I believe in unions. Never belonged to one, nor had any family member or friend who did. I still could see when I was young (18), that without them workers would have nothing. Yea, there were abuses, but the alternative is frightening. I'm so sorry you even have to think twice about losing a job that you have been doing well.


ditto ibme...

my Dad retired from Ford. he was card carrier.

i am also a Union member... without our Union, we would have nothing. nothing. nada.

big business would prevail without them. them making all the bucks and their lowly workers making next to nothing.

those pigs will fry.... if not in this life... in their next.

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Post by Corvid » 08-30-2007 08:35 PM

Joe Hill, framed on a murder charge and executed in 1915. He was a bit wobbly.


I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
Alive as you or me
Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"
"I never died," says he
"I never died," says he

"In Salt Lake, Joe," says I to him,
Him standing by my bed,
"They framed you on a murder charge,"
Says Joe, "But I ain't dead,"
Says Joe, "But I ain't dead."

"The copper bosses killed you, Joe,
They shot you, Joe," says I.
"Takes more than guns to kill a man,"
Says Joe, "I didn't die,"
Says Joe, "I didn't die."

And standing there as big as life
And smiling with his eyes
Joe says, "What they forgot to kill
Went on to organize,
Went on to organize."

"Joe Hill ain't dead," he says to me,
"Joe Hill ain't never died.
Where working men are out on strike
Joe Hill is at their side,
Joe Hill is at their side."

"From San Diego up to Maine,
In every mine and mill,
Where workers strike and organize,"
Says he, "You'll find Joe Hill,"
Says he, "You'll find Joe Hill."

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
Alive as you or me
Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"
"I never died," says he
"I never died," says he

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Post by Corvid » 08-30-2007 08:39 PM

...and from the Beatles:


Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need is a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

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