Is it really more TERROR in London, or something else going

[Alien_UK]

Alien_UK, do you have any thoughts as to why Pakistani's might be involved in suicide-bombings and terrorist attacks in England? Do you think that they would be allied with the mysteriously all-powerful Al Qaeda? Or is Al Qaeda mostly a fictional group given far too much credit?

Also, can you elucidate a bit on your warning about becomming friends with strangers? It sounds somewhat ominous.

Thanks.
Ninerism

Some schools are teaching the young men wishing to study the Koran very bad teachings, also brainwashing them. This is what appears to have happened here.

As for Al Qaeda it's a very powerfull Icon.



Well some people eager to be your friend usually wants something from you.

[Cherry Kelly]

Considering the numbers of Pakistani's who were involved in suicide bombings in the middle east - does make one wonder. Then after reading the article I posted about the recruitement going on in the universities in England - could there be a connection?

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What should be of concern to USA - are all the groups now in Europe and other nations that COULD get passports from those countries and come to the USA - for the specific purposes of 'suicide bombing'.

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ALien - keep us informed as you can. I did see where they had found the car that at least three of the bombers had been in -- ?? red one shown on ABC/CBS nightly news.

[mudwoman]

How the Government Staged the London Bombings in Ten Easy Steps



Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack

1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.

2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.

3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.

4) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.

5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.

6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.

If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.

7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.

A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.

9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.

BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".

"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."

Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.

10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.

And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.

Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 13 2005

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ju ... ysteps.htm



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[mudwoman]

London Patsies: A Replay Of The Pristine 9/11 Passport

Jon Rappoport | July 13 2005

The cover stories are flying thick and fast as British investigators try to put some kind of cap on the London attacks.

It turns out, if you believe the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale, that actual IDs of bombers were found in separate piles of rubble at the sites of the blasts.

These IDs must have been engraved deeply in three-foot-thick steel.

Remember the 9/11 hijacker passport that floated out of the crashing jetliner on 9/11 and landed intact on a New York street?

Here is a Sky News report out of London. There are too many points to make up front, so I've inserted comments in caps and brackets as you go:

BOMBER DIED IN TUBE BLAST

It is "highly likely" one of the Tube bombers died in the attacks on the Underground network, police say. [LATER IN THIS PIECE WE'LL LEARN THAT IT'S LIKELY ALL THE BOMBERS ARE DEAD.]

The suspected bombers travelled down from the West Yorkshire and met at Kings Cross station shortly before the attacks were launched on Thursday morning, police said at a press conference.

Their images were captured by CCTV cameras.

Personal documents have been found at all four bomb scenes and although the four attackers are thought to have died [OH THEY'RE ALL CONVENIENTLY DEAD BUT THE BOMBS THEMSELVES WERE ON TIMERS, WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE KILLERS TIME TO WALK AWAY FROM THE BOMBS---I SEE---IT WASN'T SUICIDE BOMBINGS, IT WAS JUST FOUR COINCIDENTAL SCREW-UPS BY THE TERRORISTS THAT RESULTED IN THEIR DEATHS] police were careful not to say whether Britain had suffered its first suicide bomb strike.

Anti-terror police said they had traced the bombers and six arrest warrants have been issued for addresses in West Yorkshire.

Police said there was forensic evidence that meant it was "very likely" the bomber responsible for the train explosion at Aldgate died there. [WHAT EVIDENCE? WILL WE EVER SEE IT?]

One of the four men had been reported missing by his family on the day of the attacks and his property was found at the bus blast scene. The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's property at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts. [PROPERTY? PLANTED BY OPS AGENTS? DESKS, CHAIRS, JEWELRY? ENCASED IN STEEL VAULTS?]

One man has just been arrested in west Yorkshire in connection with the attacks. Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland's Yard anti-terrorist branch, said: "The investigation quite early led us to have concerns about the movement and activities of four men, three of whom came from the West Yorkshire area. "We are trying to establish their movements in the run-up to last week's attack and specifically to establish whether they all died in the explosions. [THEY'RE ALL LIKELY DEAD. NO MAYBE NOT. LOOKS LIKE YES. WE CAN'T TELL. BUT WE HAVE THEIR 'PROPERTY' RIGHT THERE AT THE BLAST SCENES. MAYBE IT WAS PLANTED SO THEY COULD ESCAPE. TYPICAL AL QAEDA. PRETEND TO BE A SUICIDE BOMBER AND THEN ESCAPE. FORGET THE OTHER COVER STORY ABOUT THE AL QAEDA MO BEING SUICIDE AND GOING TO PARADISE. THIS IS DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S THE SAME. IT'S AL QAEDA.] We executed six warrants under the Terrorism Act at premises in the West Yorkshire area."

These included the home addresses of three of the four men. A detailed forensic examination will now follow and this is likely to take time to complete." [THE PUBLIC HAS NO RIGHT TO LEARN THE DETAILS OF THAT EXAMINATION. NOT NOW. NOT EVER. WE'LL ONLY RELEASE THE CONCLUSIONS.]

He continued: "We know that all four of these arrived in London by train on the morning. We have identified CCTV footage showing the four men at King's Cross Station shortly before 8.30am on that morning, July 7. [THEY POSED FOR A JOINT PICTURE FOR THE CAMERAS? BUT THEY WERE BRIGHT ENOUGH TO LEAVE 'PROPERTY' AT THE BLAST SCENES AS EVIDENCE OF DEATH, AFTER WHICH, WITH THEIR MUGS ON CAMERA, THEY ESCAPED. SURE, THAT MAKES SENSE.]

"One of them who had set out from West Yorkshire was reported missing by his family to the casualty bureau on July 7. We have been able to establish that he was joined on his journey to London by three other men. We have since found personal documents bearing the names of three of those four men close to the seats of three of the explosions." [IN PRISTINE CONDITION, NO DOUBT, WITH LARGE RED ARROWS POINTING TO THE NAMES, RIGHT THERE AT THE VERY CENTERS OF THE BLAST SCENES. IMMORTAL IDs.] As regards to the man who is missing, some of his property was found on the route 30 bus in Tavistock Square. Property of a second man was found at the scene of the Aldgate bomb and in relation to a third man property with his name was found at the Aldgate and Edgware Road bombs." [BUNDLES OF CLOTHING WITH HIS NAME SEWN ON LABELS? CLOTHING MADE OF ASBESTOS?] We have strong forensic evidence that it is very likely that one of the men from West Yorkshire died at the explosion at Aldgate."

Sky News terror expert Steve Park said the documents may have been deliberately planted to "send police the wrong way". [STEVE PARK HAS JUST RECEIVED A NEW ASSIGNMENT REPORTING ON BIRDS IN ALASKA. ANYWAY, WHO WOULD HAVE DONE THE PLANTING OF EVIDENCE? TERRORISTS? AFTER THEY POSED FOR A JOINT PICTURE IN FRONT OF A TV CAMERA ON THEIR WAY TO LONDON? SAY IT, STEVE. OPS AGENTS OR COPS MUST HAVE PLANTED THE EVIDENCE.]

The news comes as armed police search a house in Leeds after the Army used a controlled explosion to get in. [I THOUGHT THEY HAD PEOPLE OVER THERE WHO COULD PICK LOCKS. AND IF THEY REMOTELY SUSPECTED EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS MIGHT BE IN THE HOUSE, WAS THE CONTROLLED EXPLOSION DONE TO GAIN ENTRANCE OR TO DESTROY REAL EVIDENCE?]

It was the discovery that the bus bomber was likely to have died in the blasts that triggered the raids. [AREN'T AMERICAN NEWS OUTLETS CLAIMING THE REAL CLUE WAS PROVIDED BY A PHONE CALL ON THE 7TH FROM A FAMILY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? CAN'T THEY KEEP THEIR COVER STORIES STRAIGHT?] Hundreds of people were evacuated from the area around Hyde Park Road, Burley.

No one was in the house at the time but armed officers had been used as a precaution. Five other homes in Leeds had earlier been raided by police hunting the terrorists behind last week's attacks.

Neighbours at one of the addresses said a 22-year-old man who lived there with his family had gone missing. Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the raids were "directly connected" to Thursday's atrocity.

Hours later, police evacuated Luton railway station and car park to recover a vehicle suspected of being linked with the terrorist attacks. The car was blown up in two controlled explosions. [BLOWN UP WHEN? BEFORE OR AFTER EVIDENCE WAS OBTAINED FROM THE CAR. SEEMS LIKE THE AUTHORITIES ARE BUSY BLOWING UP KEY EVIDENCE. WAIT A FEW MINUTES. THEY'LL BLOW UP AREAS OF THE SUBWAY SYSTEM WHERE THE BLASTS WENT OFF.]

end Sky News article

This has to be one of the most transparent and amateur efforts at stitching together cover stories I've ever run across. Right up there with 9/11 and the OKC bombing.

http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/ju ... ssport.htm

[Ninerism]

Mudwoman, yeah, sure, suicide bombers with bombs with timers! Makes sense to me! Yeah, sure.

I'm wondering who were their contacts while in Pakistan? And what sort of 'network' that our CIA never knew about, too?!

Notice, time and again, these are young men who are mostly well-educated, have goals defined for themselves, but somehow are suckered-in to being cut-out figures.

If any of those men were acting parts as alleged above, carrying so-called dummy bombs, and they never talked to anyone, not their parents or friends, then they were rather stupid and naive, too. Wouldn't they have sensed the real danger in their participation's?

Ninerism

[mudwoman]

Mudwoman, yeah, sure, suicide bombers with bombs with timers! Makes sense to me! Yeah, sure.

I know. It is amazing! Duh! They think we are all zombies. The truth is that those who buy this tripe, and support the "war on terrorism" are the zombies.

[Alien_UK]

I'm wondering who were their contacts while in Pakistan? And what sort of 'network' that our CIA never knew about, too?!

Notice, time and again, these are young men who are mostly well-educated, have goals defined for themselves, but somehow are suckered-in to being cut-out figures.

If any of those men were acting parts as alleged above, carrying so-called dummy bombs, and they never talked to anyone, not their parents or friends, then they were rather stupid and naive, too. Wouldn't they have sensed the real danger in their participation's?

I would not go with conspiracy theories just yet it seems that we have a few fallen angles disenchanted with their world. I like to talk to people and get there views and feelings on life. Doing just this I was talking to a preacher last week, we where discussing the youth of today. We both concurred that what is missing in the UK (this does not apply to the Blacks so much as they are more spiritual than whites head per head) is faith and leadership. The white child has lost his way he has lost his spirituality he has no real roll models and he has no true leader he can trust and look up to. This is a very bad situation but it’s a real situation that we are in. The value and meaning of life as drooped down on the list of human priorities. Lets face it imagine being a kid into days world. Our leaders are openly dishonest and corrupt, our parents (you’re lucky if you have more than one) are too busy chasing money to pay the bills than to offer help to the children orjust spend some quality time with them. Our schools are becoming second rate and bogged down in political correctness (madness) where the teaching of simple values and family values have gone out the window. There is little if any punishment for misbehaviour, plus children see our politicians and captains of industry getting away with murder. And we wonder why we are in this mess today. I could give this post some justice and write an essay on this but I don’t have the time, like the parent that don’t have the time to spend a little quality time with there young ones. But I think you get the idea.

[Ninerism]

Alien_UK, thanks for those thoughtful reflection's.

I just heard recently that a group of young boys, or young men, were involved in a group-murder, a conspiracy to murder their mutual young friend! It's stunning and shocking news, and that incident happened in the glitter-gultch of Las Vegas. Those children were NOT deprived of any worldy goods, it appears.

Then another incident in glitter-gultch, city of lost wages, in Las Vegas, Nevada, United STATES, there was a beating of two young boys who had attended a local party. It was an invitation that just came-up. When they arrived several of the older boys or young men began to taunt them. Soon after, as they drove away, the small truck they were drivig was pelted with huge rocks and small bolders, and one cracked the windshield went through and struck one of the boys, and glass from windshield shattered his eye and he lost eyesight in one eye. Those attackers, acting as animals on the prowl for blood letting, were not satisfied, and then pursued in a car chase, got them surrounded, and beat the hell out of those two young innocent boys, who are now terribly emotionally scarred, and suffer many physical impairments. Some members of that blood-lust group were sent to prison. There was no provocation on the boys part! It was a party-lust for power and aggression, and obviously, some spiritual values are misplaced in some cities great and small. Those attackers were raised in very good homes, too; but I feel that their parents must have sensed something amiss in their young lives to cause them to want to act-out some strange frustration or need to act violently.

Those incidents, quite recent, are shocking to the residents of Las Vegas.

Economic deprivation's are not the only problems, though many families do raise children who are extremely deprived in economic things, but are still raised in good values, and are instilled with a sense of being loved and valued.....thus, as you describe, spritual values are certainly very important for all to know.

What I find disturbing is that the nations which are so blessed in material goods, such as those very wealthy in England and America, are the one's who are out seeking primal conquests, as if the territorial imperative were the only set of values they ever knew. No doubt, many of us here see imperialism on the rise with our neo-cons and fundamentalists taking over the Republican Party; and even influencing many Democrats to support war-conquests for EMPIRE BUILDING, which to me is a clear sign of lack of spiritual values, too.

Nothing can be more inhumane than for extremely powerful and wealthy nations to invade other sovereign smaller and far less powerful nations and then cause untold grief and destruction whereby tens of thousands of lives are placed in peril, while thousands of innocent civilians live's are snuffed out for no good. It's a collective evil that we must face, as we are providing the "ammunition" for such evil invasions and conquests.

Merely claiming that we are on a mission, a PATRIOTIC MISSION to manufacture CRUSADES for Christ, is simply not a moral imperative, not in my Good Book. It's a terrible sin that the United States has joined with England, or England prompting the United States, in these crimes against humanity. Whatever way we read it, the United States AND England are doing a grave injustice by their mutually supported pursuits of EMPIRE BUILDING, as I see it. It does appear that some powerful cabals in both nations are lusting for oil wealth.

Ninerism

[Cherry Kelly]

It is totally reasonable that the parents and friends would not know about these people.

If we go back some years remember the cults - the suiciders - oh say back to THE COMET that was mother ship? Remember those young men and women dead in the compound? Or the families of Jones cult - suicide KoolAid. Or other cult groups - the young girl who was kidnapped & brainwashed -- and the list goes on and on throughout numerous time periods. Or take a look at some serial killers who lived next door - no one suspected them. Or the ministers/priests and pedophile situations.

Of course we are going to have compsiracy theories all over the place and far too many people willing to believe them instead of taking a close look at the situation and realize - these guys committed suicide bombings - same way there were suicide bombings in other places throughout the world. We are all left wondering WHY -- because we are sane people who cannot or will not comprehend the wantom taking of life through suicide or suicide bombing.

[Alien_UK]

Police release bus bomber images

[Tim Egan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4681615.stm

[Laird]

For those of you on the West Coast you may still have enough
time to toss in a tape to record Charlie Rose's interview

the news this evening is those explosives wheren't military grade but the Work of Nasher all built in his bathtub with past United
states Ties.

I'd say the brits are running a good game of rogue rage with this news.

[Cherry Kelly]

From morning news: on CNN news (AP wires)

"Cairo police have arrested a man sought for questioning in connection with the London terrorist bombings, Egyptian security sources said today. Biochemist Magdy el-Nashar was detained Thursday night at the city's airport, the sources said."

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Its getting deeper - just who organized, etc.

[Alien_UK]

Magdy el-Nashar has a apartment in Leeds UK and went to Egypt afew weeks ago.

[spiritme]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi ... /img/3.jpg

and guess what Kingstar people do..?