The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

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The GND, NYT & Bullsh** Polls

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Edited & Excerpted from Kevin D. Williamson's article:

Writing in the New York Times, Sean McElwee has produced an example of one of my favorite genres of political writing: “The idealized version of my preference is ideal.”

McElwee’s finding is people love greenie-weenie schemes if you emphasize the benefits and promise the costs will be minimal and paid for by someone else. “People Actually Like the Green New Deal,” the headline reads.

I’m open to the implicit argument congressional Democrats are not, technically speaking, people, but they do not seem to care very much for the Green New Deal: Offered a chance to vote for a non-binding resolution in favor of the Green New Deal, not one —not one!— Democrat was willing to push the “Yea” button. Some voted against, and some voted “Present.” If only Arlen Specter had been there to vote Craigellachie.

People love high-paying jobs that someone else pays for, health care benefits that somebody else pays for, etc. McElwee writes: "Many commentators have argued that the Green New Deal would become unpopular when voters were informed of the cost, so [in our latest polling with Civis Analytics] we added that the plan would 'be paid for by raising taxes on incomes over $200,000 dollars a year by 15 percentage points.'"

This is pretty much pure horsepucky, of course. Would that 15-point tax hike on incomes over $200,000 actually pay for a program to “phase out the use of fossil fuels”? Nobody knows, since nobody knows what that would cost, since the technology to phase out fossil fuels does not currently, you know, exist.

Cookies poll pretty well, cookies that other people pay for poll very well, and cookies that magically appear on a plate thanks to magical f***ing magic are the most popular of all. But there ain’t no cookies like that. What are the words you’re hearing in the back of your mind right now? “If you like your doctor . . . you can keep your doctor.”

Many aspects of the so-called Affordable Care Act polled pretty well and continue to. The Obama administration and congressional Democrats had some idea of what would poll pretty well, which is why they — follow along now! — lied their asses off about it. And now the ACA is out there bobbling around shambolically like Mickey Rourke in legislative form, and Democrats are ponderously agape like: “How the hell did that happen?”

The fact that bullsh** polls well does not make it non-bullsh**. And the so-called Green New Deal is pure bullsh** — with a weird focus on other products of bovine recta as well.
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Re: The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

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The "Box From Hell" has been opened, let the Ignorace of the Young and the illiteracy of those that should know better, carry their water for them, until they are ready to show their true colors. But wait ,bartender-economist prodigy Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is doing that already. The one thing to watch is the Muslim aspect, which is a problem unleashed by the Democrats themselves ,also. At the moment I can only speculate, it is not clear To me yet. But you can bet your "booties" it is not good for the American People, who are really going to start feeling "The Squeeze". Would they use all their power and money to dump the whole world into a financial nose dive. My answer would be a resounding YES! For the last 10 years it has been obvious to many, that they are Not Builders, They are "Destroyers" of every thing that is dear to the human experience. They are simply doing what they have been sent to do.


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The Green New Fascist Deal

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The “Green New Deal” is a fascist utopian plan written by environmentalist lawyers that is purportedly designed to tackle the global warming apocalypse which capitalism, particularly of the American kind drunk on fossil fuels, has precipitated through economic recklessness and colonial racism.

CO2, a trace gas measured in parts per million, is the primary culprit of a climate crisis that can only be averted through an all-wise cadre of Democratic green lawyers.

That such utopianism, political legalism, and apocalypticism is presented as hard science demonstrates the general madness of the present time that is largely rooted in the Social Darwinian scientism of the 1800s, wherein German zoologist Ernst Haeckel was peddling Monism -- a monistic holism with nature along totalitarian lines that modern science was supposedly offering constituents of the Second Reich.

Today, environmentalism proffers anti-humanism, population control, ecological totalitarianism, and indigenous multicultural tribal racism that “The New Green Deal” is chock full of. FULL STORY

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Green New Deal Will Try Anything Except Nukes, Hydro, Markets...

Post by Riddick » 04-09-2019 08:57 PM

Some 600 organizations have sent a letter to Congress outlining their vision of a Green New Deal. The letter asserts that "we must act aggressively and quickly" to address the problem of man-made climate change, which the letter declares to be the "gravest environmental crisis humanity has ever faced." Surely you'd think that this coalition would advocate doing whatever it takes to ameliorate the "urgent threat" posed by global warming, but you'd be wrong.

The letter's signatories demand that Congress pass legislation mandating that the U.S. shift to 100 percent renewable electric power generation by 2035 or earlier. In addition, Congress must adopt legislation "encouraging public and community ownership over power infrastructure and electricity choice" and also make sure that our "distributed energy systems...are democratically governed."

The letter's signatories then, however, insist that "any definition of renewable energy must also exclude all combustion-based power generation, nuclear, biomass energy, large scale hydro and waste-to-energy technologies." Furthermore, the coalition opposes "market-based mechanisms and technology options such as carbon and emissions trading and offsets, carbon capture and storage, nuclear power, waste-to-energy and biomass energy." Basically, the only acceptable energy is electricity produced by wind or solar power.

Cynics among us might suspect that the Green New Dealers, by excluding market mechanisms and nuclear power as part of the portfolio of options for addressing the problem of global warming, are not irrational, but are using climate change as an excuse to pursue other social and economic goals.

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Re: The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

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Cynics among us might suspect that the Green New Dealers, by excluding market mechanisms and nuclear power as part of the portfolio of options for addressing the problem of global warming, are not irrational, but are using climate change as an excuse to pursue other social and economic goals.
Yes! You may call me a "Cynic" based on previous "Actions" (Temper Tantrums until they get what they want)

I would be a "Happy Camper" if My Cynicism, where turned to "The Freedom of Hope for all ".

I wonder what would happen if Fusion would be introduced , another tantrum?.......?



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Apocalypse By Any Other Name

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Doka wrote: 04-10-2019 12:56 AM I wonder what would happen if Fusion would be introduced , another tantrum?.......?
You can pretty much bank on it. Whether it's fission or fusion, nuclear is nuclear

Solar and wind. That's all folks. Green theology fundies won't abide anything else

Like that won't lead to a world of hurt.

A Green Utopia? Yeah right
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Pre-Emptive Tantrum

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Greenpeace: Nuclear Fusion Research Is Risky & Ignorant
The evidence suggests Greenpeace vigorously opposes all low carbon energy solutions which might actually work. The question is, why? FULL STORY
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Re: The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

Post by kbot » 04-11-2019 05:48 PM

Yeah, I don't know where you're getting your information from..........

Here's the House Bill showing the co-sponsors.

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres ... s109ih.pdf

Might want to actually read it. There is (no surprise) absolutely no reference to "cow farts".

There are phrases used such as "where technologically feasible". Translation: "This is a work-in-progress, outlining a means to an end", something that our alleged leadership has been MIA on ever since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.

BTW, list of co-sponsors:

Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
Rep. Hastings, Alcee L. [D-FL-20]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Tlaib, Rashida [D-MI-13]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Serrano, Jose E. [D-NY-15]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Maloney, Carolyn B. [D-NY-12]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Vargas, Juan [D-CA-51]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Espaillat, Adriano [D-NY-13]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Lynch, Stephen F. [D-MA-8]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Velazquez, Nydia M. [D-NY-7]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Blumenauer, Earl [D-OR-3]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Boyle, Brendan F. [D-PA-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Castro, Joaquin [D-TX-20]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Clarke, Yvette D. [D-NY-9]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Jayapal, Pramila [D-WA-7]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Khanna, Ro [D-CA-17]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Lieu, Ted [D-CA-33]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Pressley, Ayanna [D-MA-7]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Welch, Peter [D-VT-At Large]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Engel, Eliot L. [D-NY-16]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Neguse, Joe [D-CO-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Nadler, Jerrold [D-NY-10]* 02/07/2019
Rep. McGovern, James P. [D-MA-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Pocan, Mark [D-WI-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Takano, Mark [D-CA-41]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC-At Large]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Raskin, Jamie [D-MD-8]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Connolly, Gerald E. [D-VA-11]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Lowenthal, Alan S. [D-CA-47]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Matsui, Doris O. [D-CA-6]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Thompson, Mike [D-CA-5]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Levin, Mike [D-CA-49]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Pingree, Chellie [D-ME-1]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Quigley, Mike [D-IL-5]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Huffman, Jared [D-CA-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Watson Coleman, Bonnie [D-NJ-12]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Garcia, Jesus G. [D-IL-4]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Higgins, Brian [D-NY-26]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Haaland, Debra A. [D-NM-1]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Meng, Grace [D-NY-6]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Carbajal, Salud O. [D-CA-24]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Cohen, Steve [D-TN-9]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Clark, Katherine M. [D-MA-5]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Chu, Judy [D-CA-27]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Mucarsel-Powell, Debbie [D-FL-26]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Moulton, Seth [D-MA-6]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Grijalva, Raul M. [D-AZ-3]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Meeks, Gregory W. [D-NY-5]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Sablan, Gregorio Kilili Camacho [D-MP-At Large]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Lee, Barbara [D-CA-13]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Bonamici, Suzanne [D-OR-1]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Maloney, Sean Patrick [D-NY-18]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Schakowsky, Janice D. [D-IL-9]* 02/07/2019
Rep. DeLauro, Rosa L. [D-CT-3]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Levin, Andy [D-MI-9]* 02/07/2019
Rep. McCollum, Betty [D-MN-4]* 02/07/2019
Rep. DeSaulnier, Mark [D-CA-11]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Courtney, Joe [D-CT-2]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Larson, John B. [D-CT-1]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Escobar, Veronica [D-TX-16]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Schiff, Adam B. [D-CA-28]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Keating, William R. [D-MA-9]* 02/07/2019
Rep. DeFazio, Peter A. [D-OR-4]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Eshoo, Anna G. [D-CA-18]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Trahan, Lori [D-MA-3]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Gomez, Jimmy [D-CA-34]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Kennedy, Joseph P., III [D-MA-4]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Waters, Maxine [D-CA-43]* 02/07/2019
Rep. Clay, Wm. Lacy [D-MO-1] 02/14/2019
Rep. Lowey, Nita M. [D-NY-17] 02/25/2019
Rep. Suozzi, Thomas R. [D-NY-3] 02/25/2019
Rep. Sanchez, Linda T. [D-CA-38] 02/25/2019
Rep. Price, David E. [D-NC-4] 02/25/2019
Rep. Sarbanes, John P. [D-MD-3] 02/25/2019
Rep. Bass, Karen [D-CA-37] 02/25/2019
Rep. Swalwell, Eric [D-CA-15] 02/25/2019
Rep. Speier, Jackie [D-CA-14] 02/25/2019
Rep. Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [D-VA-3] 02/25/2019
Rep. Napolitano, Grace F. [D-CA-32] 02/25/2019
Rep. Smith, Adam [D-WA-9] 02/25/2019
Rep. Lofgren, Zoe [D-CA-19] 02/25/2019
Rep. Panetta, Jimmy [D-CA-20] 02/25/2019
Rep. Barragan, Nanette Diaz [D-CA-44] 02/25/2019
Rep. Cummings, Elijah E. [D-MD-7] 02/25/2019
Rep. Davis, Danny K. [D-IL-7] 02/25/2019
Rep. Hayes, Jahana [D-CT-5] 02/25/2019
Rep. Sherman, Brad [D-CA-30] 02/25/2019
Rep. Adams, Alma S. [D-NC-12] 02/25/2019
Rep. Doggett, Lloyd [D-TX-35] 02/25/2019
Rep. Garamendi, John [D-CA-3] 02/25/2019
Rep. Ruppersberger, C. A. Dutch [D-MD-2] 03/08/2019
Rep. Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [D-NJ-9] 03/25/2019
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Re: The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

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kbot wrote: 04-11-2019 05:48 PM Yeah, I don't know where you're getting your information from..........

Here's the House Bill showing the co-sponsors.

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres ... s109ih.pdf

Might want to actually read it. There is (no surprise) absolutely no reference to "cow farts".
Guess they had a change of fart... er, heart after AOC's office pulled the original GND FAQ from the Web. Too bad it was too late & word got out about the insanity
kbot wrote: 04-11-2019 05:48 PM There are phrases used such as "where technologically feasible". Translation: "This is a work-in-progress, outlining a means to an end", something that our alleged leadership has been MIA on ever since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.
A means to what end? Saving the planet? Based on what? I'll go along with we have to pursue fossil fuel alternatives. And there's still a lot that needs to be done in that regard.

But that's not the only end in its orbit I see the GND's gravitational pull potentially being used as a means to. And I don't see all those potential ends by necessity being good for the country or humanity as a whole.

A work in progress indeed.
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Re: The Ten Most Insane Requirments of the "Green New Deal"

Post by Doka » 04-12-2019 02:20 AM

Thanks Kbot, That is one of the most "Frightening" bills I have ever read! Based on fear, and store bought science. It is your life, Owned from cradle ( If you are allowed be born and allowed to live)(Remember, these are all the same people who have covered that part already) to grave, with a government big enough to choke every once of independent thought out of the Human Race, creating human robots, backwards to Serfdom. They will own you . And you will OBEY, with out question. This has been written before as in the old Agenda 21 and Karl Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" it's all there if you ever care to look.

This is a World Ideal . My Guess is that China and Russia will not be big players of this scheme. China is doing quite well with the introduction of Capitalism , it is still listed as a "Unitary one-party socialist republic" much like what the people of America seem to want to be like only ,hard core, as in before the Chinese reformation .Go figure......?Russia, may have had a belly full of Socialism, and may not be too eager to go back to it. The people are still struggling, with their somewhat new freedom, it is going to take a long time for the people to get their selves back in shape after almost a hundred years of Socialist Suppression,and corruption, It wasn't until around 1991 that the people could finally own private property.

Why even one American would want to live like these 2 countries, Beforethey started reforming, is totally mind boggeling to me.

I will say AGAIN, The Planet is Fine, The People are Suicidal.
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By-the-way Thanks for the impressive list of the "New Gods of America"
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Alternative Power To The People! - A Modestly Satirical Yet Serious Proposal

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"We Don't Want People's Money, Mind, OR Soul, What We'd Like Is That Folks Can Keep All Three"

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Exactly what it says on the tin, AND guaranteed 100% hidden agenda free, AFESASEF (in association with AAG [AMERICANS AGAINST GROUPTHINK]) supports prudent public and private policies that pursue oil, gas and coal alternatives for the fact supplies are finite and doing nothing ensures a future of energy insecurity

We're not about shutting down debate. Quite the opposite. Democratic Socialism? Settled Science? Eco-fascism? By all means, let's have a national discussion about how we can transition from fossil fuels without turning a blind eye to detrimental ecological and economic effects taking particular paths may present. At the same time, we're also not about buying lock stock and barrel into fear-mongering idealist draconianism.

Here's an idea: When those fast talking apocalyptic climate change/Green utopia salesmen gang up on you, DON'T hand them a blank check, alternatively assert your intellectual individualist liberty. Break out of the hivemind. Apply critical thinking skills at least once in a while. For all our sakes, we sincerely hope you do.
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