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Post by JimWest » 11-22-2013 03:12 AM

Latest message from Art Bell, that he posted yesterday at bellgab:
Hi there everybody. Well it is a sad day for me indeed. I got a call from the Manager I have been working with since the start of all this and the answer was NO. The further answer was they do intend to hold me to a NC. This Manager is a good guy and what decisions that were made, were made above his head. I did contact a Lawyer who I will not identify unless he wants to be known but I can proudly tell you he is one of you! He was willing to proceed and felt we had a good chance to win BUT it is expensive and as any of you know who have ever gone down that road know, it takes a long time. So if my health holds I will see you in less than two Years. Below is a copy of my last email to Sirius/XM minus the name of the Manager to who it was sent: First, you may recall I said to you that I thought you would not get much of a bump from putting Coast on, was I right? Have you actually listened to that show? Have you REALLY listened? You put him on 104 which was I guess a nice way to get back at me, but that guy is a joke. How many people rushed to put any money down to listen to Coast on 104? I bet nobody, all this plus they are doing what I asked for and more! 1. I said what I would like is to be back on but wanted to stream for free, but leave the value added stuff to Sirius/XM you said no. As it stands now I presume the streaming still does not work properly and will not, till at best August or so. You said this was a good idea for me but not Sirius. I disagree, if we develop millions of listener's, in what World is that bad for Sirius in any way? If you can charge BIG bucks per commercial minute.....Broadcasting 101, it's a good thing. 2. We talked about one day with streaming, I asked about other days, you said we could talk about that, we never did. 3. As it stands now people MUST pay about 0.00 a Year if they want to hear Art Bell, why not allow listeners the option of JUST streaming my show for a lesser fee? It could be pro rated, IF it just worked properly. 4. I said I would be willing to buy the Studio gear for whatever you paid if I could be released from my Non Compete, I have not yet heard a answer to that one, though you did once say you would not let me go, you sent me a reply saying you would consider it. 5. I can wait out the remaining time, then stream, which it looks like I will be doing at 70 Years of age. I just for the life of me can not see why everything with Sirius/XM has to be lumped together in a Business model that works for non commercial music just fine, but lumps Talk Radio in with it. I understand why it works for Howard, he had little choice unless he wanted to keep paying fines. I don't know about Dr. Laura. Two things I can tell you about me, every time I crack the mike I put 110% into it, it takes a lot of work and I am willing to give my time and energy happily but not if I have no way to grow the audience. I have millions of people waiting for a way to hear me and they would pay something to do so, but asking them to become subs for 0.00 bucks a Year with a service that does not work well will not get them there. The other thing is Coast, I will not share time with them. I thought hard about that, and there is no way I would rejoin under any conditions while you carry them. The reason I came back on is because that show is a insult to the entire field, not to mention at least 45% of it is commercial or breaks of some sort while the rest is just plain bad Radio. I truly enjoyed working with you and everybody else at Sirius/XM and wish there was a way to work this out. I understand you think the way forward is exclusive content and perhaps you are right but in my opinion the World will pass you very shortly while trying to hold on to this model. It really already is. Nobody tried to stop all the Pirates, every one of my shows was and is available for download the next day, great for the guy who doesn't want to pay but not so great for the Talk Host who wants the live calls, how does this make sense??? Art

So, there it is. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank all of you for so much support. I wish it had worked out in some way but there were forces at work that I never thought about, I am just a talking head........

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Post by Fan » 11-22-2013 10:02 AM

It surprises me how naive about business he is and how petty he is about c2c. I really lost respect for Art over this debacle, big time.
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Post by LESTAT1999 » 11-22-2013 10:19 AM

MUST SAY THIS WHOLE THING IS UNREAL AND AND I FOR ONE NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID AND LEGAL MUMBLE JUMBLE IS SAID CANT BELIEVE THAT ART DID NOT KNOW THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN. SHOULD ART NOT BE SMARTER THAN THAT AND HOW CAN YOU GET PISSED AND A COMPANY OR ANYBODY ELSE AND JUST QUIT. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THIS JUST DO IT AND IT WILL EITHER GET BETTER OR AFTER TWO YEARS THAN FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY. 2 MORE YEARS REALLY ART? THIS IS COMING FROM THE MOST LOYAL FAN FROM THE BEGINNING AND I AM NOT WAITING FOR 2 YEARS AND GOING THROUGH THE REGRET OF READING POSTS EVERYDAY WITH THEORIES. YOU BROKE ALOT OF POEPLES HEARTS AND CANT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAY 2 MORE YEARS. I FOR ONE AM REALLY PISSED AND YOU MAY GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS SOMETHING YOU DID NOT. DO WHAT YOU LOVE OR DONT DO IT AT ALL. I FOR ONE AM DONE. THANKS ART.

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Post by BenSlain » 11-22-2013 11:24 AM

Fan wrote: It surprises me how naive about business he is and how petty he is about c2c. I really lost respect for Art over this debacle, big time.



He great when he's behind a mike talking paranormal. Everything else in his life for the past forty years or so has really been effed up if you stand back and look at it. I'm not gonna harp on it or drag crap up but besides the on air stuff this guy has been a mess. Not somebody I want to be related to.
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Post by Dude111 » 11-22-2013 11:24 PM

Fan wrote: It surprises me how naive about business he is and how petty he is about c2c. I really lost respect for Art over this debacle, big time.
I still wonder if he just did this Fan as a way to get out of it!! (W/o telling anyone that)

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Post by Fan » 11-23-2013 11:12 AM

Dude111 wrote: I still wonder if he just did this Fan as a way to get out of it!! (W/o telling anyone that)
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Post by cherry » 12-07-2013 03:23 PM

C2C should bring ARt back as a host. And let him choose his guests and screen his callers.

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Post by Diogenes » 12-07-2013 03:26 PM

That boat sailed ages ago. It's over.
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Post by Riddick » 12-08-2013 09:48 AM

Even if he wanted to go back, and even if they wanted him, Art's too smart for C2C - After over a decade at the helm George has taken the show to new intellectual lows. That said? At least Noory 1) shows up for work and 2) doesn't jerk his audience around -

It's tough to get a show off the ground when the host gives up at the drop of a hat! I'd guess there's far fewer fans waiting with bated breath for Art's 'return' in 2 years.

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Post by Raggedyann » 12-08-2013 03:08 PM

I got tired of having to reload every half hour. I was one of those who did have problems. I kept getting messages saying the program was 'unavailable at this time'. That could be because of where I live, dunno. If he comes back in some other way, fine. If not, I'm not going to lose any sleep over him. My past excitement of waiting for his return just isn't the same for me this go around. Enough is enough!
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Post by Diogenes » 12-08-2013 03:15 PM

Raggedyann wrote: I got tired of having to reload every half hour. I was one of those who did have problems. I kept getting messages saying the program was 'unavailable at this time'. That could be because of where I live, dunno. If he comes back in some other way, fine. If not, I'm not going to lose any sleep over him. My past excitement of waiting for his return just isn't the same for me this go around. Enough is enough!


Ditto!!!!

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JUST DO IT!

Post by cherry » 12-08-2013 05:21 PM

It's not that hard. Premiere, just text ARt. Bring him back as a guest host to fill in for ____ . Let him invite his own guests, play his own music, screen his own calls.

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Post by Fan » 12-09-2013 01:08 PM

cherry wrote: It's not that hard. Premiere, just text ARt. Bring him back as a guest host to fill in for ____ . Let him invite his own guests, play his own music, screen his own calls.


a. Art is not allowed to due to his NC contract

b. Premiere doesn't want him

c. Art doesn't want to work for them
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Post by Riddick » 12-09-2013 02:59 PM

Funny, I didn't even think of (a) when I replied earlier.

As it is under the circumstances, IMHO however you look at it it seems more than futile wishing he'd go back to C2C - Yet interestingly enough, Premiere does want him AND has him, in the form of Saturday night SIT re-runs...

And moreso I highly doubt he has any residual rebroadcast rights - so, in a way, he IS still working for them BUT not getting paid. Thus these days, instead of a "guest host" he's more of a Coast "ghost host"!

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