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Post by Dude111 » 12-15-2013 03:07 AM

1 of the best rock n roll songs of all time and a personal favourite of mine!

This song really tells the truth of what they want people to believe,etc..

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1532

I AM GRATEFUL TO HAVE THIS ON RECORD!! (In analogue)

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Post by HB3 » 12-15-2013 09:58 AM

What's "analogue," Dude?

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Post by Dude111 » 12-15-2013 03:20 PM

Analog is BEAUTIFUL HB3 :) (Much better than this digital trash)

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Post by kbot » 12-16-2013 06:41 AM

Saw The Who in Fort Worth during their '76 tour. Great show. My understanding was that this song was written as a response to what they saw/ encountered at Woodstock. At first they were excited by the revolutionary track the country was taking, but when they arrived for the show, all they saw was a bunch of drugged-out kids and that kinda soured them on the occassion.

After nearly a decade of college student protests, JFK/ MLK/ RFK, Vietnam, ect, they thought a change was coming and when they saw the generation who was supposed to lead the revolution they lowered their expectations dramatically.

Still one of my all-time favorite songs and bands though......

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Post by fos » 12-17-2013 07:19 PM

A motto I try to live by....

One of my favorites.

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Post by Fan » 12-18-2013 02:26 PM

One of my faves too, seen it live 5 times now. I also have it on vinyl.
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Thats the BEST way to have it Fan!! (I think my copy is in M

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Post by HB3 » 12-18-2013 11:03 PM

So mono is better than stereo? Damn, dude.

Anyway, I'm almost positive that album was originally released in stereo. The last Who album to be put out in mono was The Who Sell Out.

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Post by Fan » 12-18-2013 11:19 PM

HB3 wrote: So mono is better than stereo? Damn, dude.

Anyway, I'm almost positive that album was originally released in stereo. The last Who album to be put out in mono was The Who Sell Out.


This guy makes a pretty good argument...
It is important to understand that there are no stereo sound sources. From any given position in space, all sound sources are monophonic
http://www.anstendig.org/Stereo.html (good article)
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Post by Fan » 12-18-2013 11:23 PM

kbot wrote: all they saw was a bunch of drugged-out kids and that kinda soured them on the occassion.


but... they were all on drugs, often much more than the kids. I think there is more to it.

like this:
In August, the Who performed at the Woodstock Festival, despite being reluctant to do so and only agreeing after being paid ,000 up front.[95] Originally scheduled to appear at 10pm on Saturday 16,[96] the festival ran late and the group did not take to the stage until 5am Sunday,[97] where they played most of Tommy.[98] During their performance, Yippie leader Abbie Hoffman interrupted the set to give a political speech about the arrest of John Sinclair, before being kicked offstage by Townshend[95] (who infamously shouted "**** off my ****ing stage!").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who#To ... e_at_Leeds

edit: apparently Pete was clean at this time...
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Post by Fan » 12-18-2013 11:29 PM

...and you knew this was coming: all footage of the who at woodstock, they rocked it.



(includes Abbie Hoffman incident)

oh and then watch this 1:30 show with great shots of Keith Moon. Includes them doing all of Tommy.

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Post by HB3 » 12-18-2013 11:34 PM

Well, whatever. The transition from mono to stereo recording techniques and the subsequent increase in sound quality from the mid to late sixties and thence into the early seventies has been frequently remarked upon, including w/ regard to The Who's recordings -- the audio quality of Who's Next being a particularly noted improvement. Yeah, mono has its defenders, but there's a huge difference in the sound of The Who's first three albums and what came after...it pretty much encapsulates the evolution of recording technology in real time.

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Post by Fan » 12-18-2013 11:46 PM

HB3 wrote: Well, whatever. The transition from mono to stereo recording techniques and the subsequent increase in sound quality from the mid to late sixties and thence into the early seventies has been frequently remarked upon, including w/ regard to The Who's recordings -- the audio quality of Who's Next being a particularly noted improvement. Yeah, mono has its defenders, but there's a huge difference in the sound of The Who's first three albums and what came after...it pretty much encapsulates the evolution of recording technology in real time.


it is purists vs sensualists. They both have their merits.

The Who was always on the cutting edge, from their use of synths to recording techniques, to live performance. Maybe the greatest all-around rock n' roll band of all time.
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Post by HB3 » 12-18-2013 11:57 PM

I don't think they ever liked the sound of those first three albums. They certainly have their defenders now. But there was definitely a big breakthrough...the sound of The Who as we've gone to understand it exploded w/ Who's Next in particular. "Won't Get Fooled Again" was like the Big Bang of modern rock -- recording and performance.

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Post by Fan » 12-19-2013 12:03 AM

HB3 wrote: I don't think they ever liked the sound of those first three albums. They certainly have their defenders now. But there was definitely a big breakthrough...the sound of The Who as we've gone to understand it exploded w/ Who's Next in particular. "Won't Get Fooled Again" was like the Big Bang of modern rock -- recording and performance.


Well, it is an evolution thing. Like you said, they tracked recording tech, just like the Beatles and many other bands. I love early Who and I don't even think about whether it is stereo or mono. Most of the time I am not listening on headphones anyways, so I am not getting balanced stereo, and properly recorded mono might well sound better and more cohesive since you would not have drop outs from turning your head for instance.
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