Foreign Policy Debate

Moderator: Super Moderators

User avatar
Riddick
Pirate
Posts: 15750
Joined: 11-01-2002 03:00 AM
Location: Heartland USA
Contact:

Post by Riddick » 10-22-2012 09:31 PM

Heh. Obama's arguments on how we can grow the economy might be more convincing, if not for one thing -

The last four years.

User avatar
Diogenes
Pirate
Posts: 5784
Joined: 07-14-2011 03:01 PM

Post by Diogenes » 10-22-2012 09:31 PM

Building roads and bridges???? That is what his stimulus was for- shovel ready jobs.

More like Shovel ready talk.
A man's character is his fate

User avatar
Doka
Pirate
Posts: 7978
Joined: 09-02-2009 08:15 PM

Post by Doka » 10-22-2012 09:33 PM

I wonder if Obama meant he is giving up golf and vacations?

User avatar
Riddick
Pirate
Posts: 15750
Joined: 11-01-2002 03:00 AM
Location: Heartland USA
Contact:

Post by Riddick » 10-22-2012 09:33 PM

Romney gets the last word.

HB3
Moderator
Posts: 11919
Joined: 11-02-2000 03:00 AM

Post by HB3 » 10-22-2012 09:35 PM

Who do you think won?

HB3
Moderator
Posts: 11919
Joined: 11-02-2000 03:00 AM

Post by HB3 » 10-22-2012 09:36 PM

Oh God, there's Candy Crowley...

User avatar
Riddick
Pirate
Posts: 15750
Joined: 11-01-2002 03:00 AM
Location: Heartland USA
Contact:

Post by Riddick » 10-22-2012 09:40 PM

IMHO not a lot of hard punches by either, at least not on actual foreign policy.

If I was scoring this on the sparing they did on the economy, I'd give Mitt the definite edge there.

User avatar
Diogenes
Pirate
Posts: 5784
Joined: 07-14-2011 03:01 PM

Post by Diogenes » 10-22-2012 09:44 PM

Riddick wrote: IMHO not a lot of hard punches by either, at least not on actual foreign policy.

If I was scoring this on the sparing they did on the economy, I'd give Mitt the definite edge there.


YUP
A man's character is his fate

User avatar
Diogenes
Pirate
Posts: 5784
Joined: 07-14-2011 03:01 PM

Post by Diogenes » 10-22-2012 09:45 PM

HB3 wrote: Who do you think won?


I think Mitt Romney handled himself very well and no wonder - how would you like to defend the record of this last four years????

It truly is indefensible.
A man's character is his fate

User avatar
BenSlain
Pirate
Posts: 3419
Joined: 09-14-2000 02:00 AM

Post by BenSlain » 10-22-2012 09:48 PM

Doka wrote: I wish that those who love Obama would read his books!


From Audacity of Hope:

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”



and then there's this....


A year-long investigation by the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT) has found that scores of known radical Islamists made hundreds of visits to the Obama White House, meeting with top administration officials.


http://www.investigativeproject.org/377 ... hite-house
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been The champion of the world.

User avatar
Diogenes
Pirate
Posts: 5784
Joined: 07-14-2011 03:01 PM

Post by Diogenes » 10-22-2012 09:50 PM

Going to turn in and watch the critics a bit - lets see what tomorrow brings.
A man's character is his fate

User avatar
Doka
Pirate
Posts: 7978
Joined: 09-02-2009 08:15 PM

Post by Doka » 10-22-2012 09:55 PM

I don't know who won. But one thing is sure for me anyway, is Obama flubs on the truth so much, but still can make one think he is "honest John", I swear he is like an "alien Chameleon", it's crazy makin stuff. Well ,not that I have met many alien chameleons, but I do know a couple of "crazy makin" people.:D

HB3
Moderator
Posts: 11919
Joined: 11-02-2000 03:00 AM

Post by HB3 » 10-22-2012 10:03 PM

Looks like all the fact checks are coming out in Romney's favor.

User avatar
Riddick
Pirate
Posts: 15750
Joined: 11-01-2002 03:00 AM
Location: Heartland USA
Contact:

Post by Riddick » 10-22-2012 10:07 PM

Results of CBS scientific poll of 500 independent/undecided voters

Who won the debate:
Obama 53%
Romney 23%
Tie 24%

Able to handle an international crisis:
Obama before 58% after 71%
Romney before 46% after 49%

Do a good job on terror and national security:
Obama 64%
Romney 36%

Better job dealing with China:
Obama 50%
Romney 50%


It's worth noting the results were followed by a comment from one of the CBS debate anchor team that while these numbers are almost exactly flipped from the first debate, this was the least important of the three.

I'll also note that I suspect the sample for the poll didn't include many if any folks who invest on Intrade as the numbers there, still showing only about a 1 point shift, don't reflect traders giving the President huge props for his performance - if anything, his bump has already started to slip since the end of the debate.

HB3
Moderator
Posts: 11919
Joined: 11-02-2000 03:00 AM

Post by HB3 » 10-22-2012 10:08 PM

I think the KosKids, etc., must be loading up the snap polls.

Post Reply

Return to “Politics and Government 2010-2013”