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Post by kbot » 11-03-2010 05:56 AM

Bellisima wrote: Massachusetts remains True Blue. I don't have to move. :D :D :D :D :D


Yeah. You know, I stood at the voting booth for the longest time trying to recall all that I read about Patrick and Baker and many of the other candidates, and for the life of me, I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Charlie Baker. I voted for Borwn when he ran for Kenendy's old seat, but Baker's history to make it easier for jobs to leave the state just didn't sppeal to me, as much as Patrick has angered me over his first term. I think that Massachusetts is probably one of the few Liberl holdouts left.....

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Post by Linnea » 11-03-2010 06:32 PM

Thanks to those who posted here in the Fantastic Forum Election Central 2010 ~ Nov 2, 2010 thread for this historic midterm election.

It's one for the archives...

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Keeping the thread open for news, comments and reaction to this historic event.

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Post by Joolz » 11-03-2010 06:48 PM

Well, to update my report from last night: Kamala Harris managed to squeak through in her bid for Attorney General of California with a slim lead in the final tallies. She sits at 45.9% of the vote, while her opponent, Cooley, has 45.7%. I haven't heard whether there will be a recount, but am thinking there probably will be.
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Post by SETIsLady » 11-03-2010 06:54 PM

Awwwwww Election night on the ship is tradition now ! :D

This is very interesting, and sad all at the same time.

Turnout among young voters: 20 percent

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/turn ... 0-percent/

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Post by SETIsLady » 11-03-2010 07:26 PM

And then there is this
After the election, an economic turnaround?

Just in time to offer no help for beleaguered Democrats, a new batch of economic data suggests brighter days ahead


http://www.salon.com/news/us_economy/in ... he_economy
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Post by Linnea » 11-04-2010 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Linnea - in another thread
I agree with Obama that he is a 'post partisan' leader - which actually accounts for his failures, not his successes. He was completely naive in his assessment that we live in a post-partisan world.

Originally posted by Kaz, in response - in another thread
I could not disagree with you more Linnea. Barack Obama has utterly failed to bring America, and our political leaders together. I think you would be very hard pressed to show examples of his efforts in this arena - efforts that demonstrate him to be a leader determined to bring people together no matter the circumstance. For example, a post-partisan leader doesn't get on national television to talk about his health-care plan in terms of an evil "red pill" vs. a new miracle drug "blue pill". Most people saw through that garbage - and they certainly weren't the words of a post-partisan leader.

This type of behavior goes back to one of his very first policy meetings with Republicans. When presented with Republican ideas about the stimulus package, which he dismissed out of hand, he uttered these incredibly arrogant words: "Elections have consequences. I won".

No, those are not the words of a post-partisan President. They are the words of a leader with a super-majority who has just misread his mandate and forgotten the words that got him elected. Immediately thereafter, he began to delegate massive pieces of his agenda to the rabidly partisan House of Representatives. He is not a stupid man of course, he knew full well how the House operated, and that this was going to get incredibly partisan moving forward - and when it did, he sat by and let his party rip in to the racist, dumb Americans who were to stupid to realize that Democrats knew what was best for them.

Finally, his words, and the words he tolerated as the leader of his party during this election cycle hammer the nails in the coffin of his "post-partisan" claims. He and his party spoke of "enemies", "extremists", "racists", "stupid people", "scared people", etc.......

Gone were the days of his United States vs. Blue and Red states speech. Frankly, a LOT of the rhetoric used by Democrats to describe Americans who disagreed with them was of a quality more suited to the talk radio format they so despise.

Well, guess what? He and his party just got their ass handed to them by a bunch of moron, redneck, racist, frightened, extremist, "enemies" - AKA the majority of voting Americans in 2010.

That's right, based upon the "post-partisan" rhetoric Barack Obama and the Democrats have been using this past year, they were just taken down by a bunch of crazy redneck hicks (their insinuations, not mine) - mostly because their spoiled brat, drug addicted, mental patient base (again, their insinuations, not mine) have realized this guy is not an actual representative of the base, and that their adopted party is just as corrupt as the other one is.

It truly is a shame that the President, and leaders of the Democratic party lost sight of the fact that with control of the entire government, they represented ALL Americans - not just the ones who agreed with them, and supported their every decision.

The American people have just put in place a check & balance to the incredibly arrogant partisan rule of the Democractic party in America.

In my opinion, Americans are not as stupid as Democrats have liked to portray them this past year. I think Americans are fully aware of the fact that they just divided government by putting in place an equally partisan group in control of the House. If either group wants to be successful, they are going to have to work together now - or the electorate will likely do it again in two years.
I stick with my original assessment of Obama. His style of leadership led to his downfall as he attempted for months and months to negotiate with Republicans who acted from the very beginning in bad faith. We got a crappy HCR due to this dithering, and the economic stimulus bills were also gutted to the point of being ineffective.

If the midterm election was a repudiation of Obama - it was for these reasons.
The American people have just put in place a check & balance to the incredibly arrogant partisan rule of the Democractic party in America.
Case in point - have you listened to the Republican leaders today? That's arrogance.

And what is Obama seeming to do? Capitulating, again.

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Post by Joolz » 11-04-2010 06:53 PM

Linnea wrote: Case in point - have you listened to the Republican leaders today? That's arrogance.

Agreed. What I've heard from there is not encouraging at all. It just sounds like, to use a tired old phrase, more of the same. And then some...

(ETA: In all honesty, in light of all this, what I see looming ahead is just a circus show. Again. It's all going to be about posturing for the media -- not really about the people at all, just posturing for perceived political gain, and who can get the most press coverage. Congress will become a circus show, and we the people, will be the captive audience via the 24/7 news media. Again. Same ol', same ol'... and as I said on racehorse's thread, this goes contrary to what I feel there was a referendum about in this election, if there was really any referendum at all. No one is listening to any of us, though.)

As for the rest, I'm encouraged by the news I heard yesterday that David Plouffe is coming back to the WH (Axelrod is going to Chicago to help with the 2012 campaign from there, and Plouffe is stepping into his shoes at the WH). Plouffe is a fantastic addition, IMO. We shall see what happens. It's too early to tell. IMHO.
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Post by SETIsLady » 11-04-2010 07:29 PM

I just finished reading this article about the betrayal the American people feel. Definetely worth the read and addresses the fact that the American people are not happy with anyone and that includes the GOP.

Tom Brokaw: Americans 'feel sense of betrayal’ from politicians, Wall Street

http://fwix.com/wpalmbeach/share/94a7df ... all_street

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Post by Linnea » 11-04-2010 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Joolz
... As for the rest, I'm encouraged by the news I heard yesterday that David Plouffe is coming back to the WH (Axelrod is going to Chicago to help with the 2012 campaign from there, and Plouffe is stepping into his shoes at the WH). Plouffe is a fantastic addition, IMO. We shall see what happens. It's too early to tell. IMHO.


Plouffe was a great strategist and fighter on the campaign trail in 2008. Maybe he can help guide the administration with more sass and success. ;)

Something needs to happen - or we are stuck with not much in the way of progress. I really hope Obama can get his 'stuff' together and deliver on the economy and social issues.

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Post by Linnea » 11-04-2010 08:36 PM

Originally posted by SETIsLady
I just finished reading this article about the betrayal the American people feel. Definetely worth the read and addresses the fact that the American people are not happy with anyone and that includes the GOP.

Tom Brokaw: Americans 'feel sense of betrayal’ from politicians, Wall Street

http://fwix.com/wpalmbeach/share/94a7df ... all_street


Will read this article. Tom Brokaw probably has a long term view - backwards and forwards. I miss the 'anchor guys'. Life seemed much better then.

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Post by SETIsLady » 11-04-2010 08:42 PM

I had not heard Plouffe was coming back ! Thanks, this is good news :)

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Post by Linnea » 11-04-2010 09:02 PM

Why do I get the feeling that in the distraction of this election, and that of the upcoming 2012 election, 'real world' (read the somber economic condition of this country) will again be relegated to the background?

I notice less and less is being talked about in terms of the economy and jobs - as the focus is changing to 'the deficit' and 'tax cut extensions' and 'the 2012 election'.

With the stated intention of Republican leadership to pursue as a first order of business - ensuring Obama's defeat in 2012, then the deficit, then extending tax cuts - I do not see much focus on the economy from them. If the first goal is to make Obama and the Dems look bad - the economy and job growth will not be priorities. Quite the contrary.

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Post by SquidInk » 11-04-2010 09:31 PM

Linnea wrote:
With the stated intention of Republican leadership to pursue as a first order of business - ensuring Obama's defeat in 2012, then the deficit, then extending tax cuts - I do not see much focus on the economy from them. If the first goal is to make Obama and the Dems look bad - the economy and job growth will not be priorities. Quite the contrary.


That's what the "two party system" does well. It deflects our vision away from what matters, and refocuses our vision on itself, it's inter-party dramas, & it's adjuvant "issues".
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Post by Kaztronic » 11-04-2010 11:45 PM

Linnea wrote:
I stick with my original assessment of Obama. His style of leadership led to his downfall as he attempted for months and months to negotiate with Republicans who acted from the very beginning in bad faith. We got a crappy HCR due to this dithering, and the economic stimulus bills were also gutted to the point of being ineffective.

If the midterm election was a repudiation of Obama - it was for these reasons.


On the matter of Obama being "post-partisan" or "hyper-partisan", we simply disagree.

I find it difficult to accept - two days after Americans voted for Republican candidates (if not the Republican party) in a manner that goes down as a historic loss for the Democrats - that the American public turned against the Democrats and voted Republican because the President was too willing to compromise with Republicans.

As for your comments about the Republicans, you will find little disagreement from me on that matter.
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Democrat Patty Murray wins in Washington

Post by Linnea » 11-05-2010 12:50 AM

by Associated Press

KING5.com Posted on November 4, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Updated today at 10:12 PM
OLYMPIA, Wash. - Washington U.S. Sen. Patty Murray seized a fourth term Thursday, surviving voters' backlash against Democrats nationally and weeks of relentless GOP campaign attacks on her voting and federal spending record.

Murray's victory over Republican Dino Rossi, after three days of tallying, preserves breathing room for the Senate's shrunken Democratic majority. Republicans made inroads there Tuesday and took control of the House for the rest of President Barack Obama's first term.

Her win was secured Thursday as tallies pushed her lead to about 46,000 votes out of more than 1.8 million counted, or about 51 percent to 49 percent. About three-quarters of the expected ballots had been counted in unofficial returns.

Hundreds of thousands of ballots still await processing, but an Associated Press analysis determined Murray's lead would be insurmountable.
http://www.king5.com/news/politics/Murr ... 30269.html

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