Updates on Health Care Reform - Jan 14, 2010- continuing

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 03-25-2010 01:37 PM

Senate passes health insurance reconciliation bill, sends back to House - I believe the count from what I heard is 56-43 but I haven't been able to confirm that.

racehorse · Post by **racehorse** » 03-25-2010 02:01 PM

SETIsLady wrote: Senate passes health insurance reconciliation bill, sends back to House - I believe the count from what I heard is 56-43 but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Hi SETIsLady.

That is correct.
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Health Care Reconciliation Bill Passes Senate, Goes Back to House for Another Vote

The Senate this afternoon passed the health care reconciliation bill by a 56-43 vote, which included the important "fix-its" to the law signed this week.

Three Democrats, including Sens. Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska -- all of whom voted for the original Senate health care legislation -- voted against the reconciliation. . . .

Rest of Article at:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCa ... d=10197766

HB3 · Post by **HB3** » 03-25-2010 02:07 PM

SETIsLady wrote: Interesting article NPR about the GOP and the Tea Party people.

A Turning Point For Tea Party — And The GOP?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =125161889

My opinion is that many need to take it down a few notches, someone is going to get hurt and then all hell is going to break loose. People have a right to protest, they do not have a right to intimidate or threaten others, I don’t care who it is. The violent terminology that is being used is not helping the situation at all

There have been quite a few stories coming from the left that attempt to be more equitable. I think the NYRB did one.

It's interesting that the very people attempting to paint the Tea Party in the harshest possible terms are the very same people who reflexively argue that "it's only a few extremists" in the case of religious terrorism. Oddly, it's never "just a few extremists" when it comes to the Tea Party or conservative movement.

Rombaldi · Post by **Rombaldi** » 03-25-2010 05:22 PM

HB3 wrote: Dude...for Christ's sake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

Dude.. you're wrong. IT WAS POSTED ON THE DAMN WEB.

Rombaldi · Post by **Rombaldi** » 03-25-2010 05:25 PM

BTW... those IDIOTS that are having the State Atty General's trying to file suit to block this... do they realize that the frigging bill says 'states can innovate and do their own program.. just meet some standards?'

Biker · Post by **Biker** » 03-25-2010 05:33 PM

As in 'you can do what you like as long as we approve' type of standards?

Biker

HB3 · Post by **HB3** » 03-25-2010 05:47 PM

Rombaldi wrote: Dude.. you're wrong. IT WAS POSTED ON THE DAMN WEB.

Humor. Introspection. Look into it.

Rombaldi · Post by **Rombaldi** » 03-25-2010 05:59 PM

HB3 wrote: Humor. Introspection. Look into it.

Stupidity, Ignorance. A Tragedy

Rombaldi · Post by **Rombaldi** » 03-25-2010 06:00 PM

Biker wrote: As in 'you can do what you like as long as we approve' type of standards

As in 'take care of the people at least as good as this plan, under your control. You want to do MORE, go right ahead'.

You got a problem with meeting a minimum standard?

Biker · Post by **Biker** » 03-25-2010 06:13 PM

Rombaldi wrote: As in 'take care of the people at least as good as this plan, under your control. You want to do MORE, go right ahead'.

You got a problem with meeting a minimum standard?

As mandated - unconstitutionally - by the Federal Goverment? I sure as hell do.

Biker

Rombaldi · Post by **Rombaldi** » 03-25-2010 06:33 PM

Biker wrote: As mandated - unconstitutionally - by the Federal Goverment? I sure as hell do.

Biker

Bet you hate drinking water standards, food safety standards and other things that keep you alive too.

Biker · Post by **Biker** » 03-25-2010 06:38 PM

Rombaldi wrote: Bet you hate drinking water standards, food safety standards and other things that keep you alive too.

Nope, but what does that have to do with health care reform? I can drill for my own water, and raise/grow my own food. I've done both without gubmit help or intervention.

Biker

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 03-25-2010 06:43 PM

Biker, I am not sure how this could be unconstitutional and Medicare and Social Security isn't. I am not looking to fight with anyone, I am trying to understand where others are coming from. Or do those that disagree with this legislation disagree with Social Security and Medicare believe that is unconstitutional as well. Just trying to understand.

racehorse · Post by **racehorse** » 03-25-2010 08:07 PM

The House of Representatives has just passed the Senate Reconciliation Amendments to the Health Care Reform Bill by a vote of 220-207. The House did not pursue any other changes to the bill. The long legislative process regarding this issue is now over. The Reconciled Bill will now go to the President for his signature which could come as early as tomorrow but will probably occur some time next week.

racehorse · Post by **racehorse** » 03-25-2010 08:12 PM

Biker wrote: As mandated - unconstitutionally - by the Federal Goverment? [/B]

This bill may or not be wise but despite what many think or say they do about it (including many Republicans) it will not be ruled by the courts to be unconstitutional.