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So, How's That Uncoordinated Response Working Out For Ya? On: 10-28-2014 At: 11:40 PM
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Front Page Item 9.28.14 USA Today Dead Tree Edition -

CONFUSION DRIVING U.S. EBOLA POLICIES
Starting To Feel Like 'Every Man For Himself'

Front Page Headline 9.28.14 NY Daily News
Dead Tree Edition -

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On: 10-29-2014 At: 03:22 PM
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Help me understand.

  • "The government" can now require people who show no signs of illness to "shelter in place", or remain isolated from other humans (in an undisclosed location, for a duration of time that they will decide)
  • "Conservatives" like this idea just as much as they liked it when armed combat units were patrolling the neighborhoods of Boston ordering people to stay inside until they were given permission to come out again
Huh. One question... when did the people who proudly call themselves residents of "the land of the free and the home of the brave" become a quivering pile?

No good can come of this. Today it's "ebola" from "Africa" tomorrow it will "Valley Fever" from "Bakersfield", or whatever the hell they need to say to exert control. Flu season is coming. You'll probably get the flu. The main "symptoms" of "ebola" are fever and diarrhea. See what they did there? Remember Niemoller's warning. This is yet another brick in the wall, for sure.

What ever happened to "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"? Guess that was just the most expedient political rhetoric of the day.

People who agree with forced quarantines are wrong. They are acting/thinking/believing things which are, at their core, unamerican. And before we talk about Ellis Island Immigrants remember this: those people who were quarantined upon arrival were not yet "citizens", and were not under the umbrella of the US founding docs. Their situation is different, although I would argue that those quarantines were questionable as well.

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On: 10-29-2014 At: 05:11 PM
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I am a firm believer in quarantine, PROVIDED the patient is symptomatic and this is where the government is veering off course with it's "one size fits all approach" to quarantine.

In (some) fairness to them - one can be infected with Ebola, and just not be symptomatic, leave an area, and start to spike a temp moments later - so it's a tough call.

I think that, no matter what, the government is in a tough position on this one because how do you balance freedoms with doing your responsibility as a public health entity? Where is the line in the sand, and when do you cross it? And, I'm sorry - having that nurse stay in a TENT outside. Didn't anyone think that, maybe she might develop pneumonia if the temperature dropped? How ridiculous what that?

Also, I think that the two cases of the physicians who "volunteered" to quarantine themselves and promptly went out into public didn't help matters any, especially when one turned-up positive - after he went all over the city potentially exposing others.

I still believe in the Ellis Island model - quarantine until known to be safe - but, the catch is that you have to be symptomatic. And, that's one heck of a catch..... You can't possibly quarantine everyone

On the Watertown issue - all I can say is that Massachusetts is the most Liberal Far Left state in the country - and the residents ion Watertown (and elsewhere in the state) just caved. That scares the crap outa me.......

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On: 10-29-2014 At: 06:44 PM
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Huh. One question... when did the people who proudly call themselves residents of "the land of the free and the home of the brave" become a quivering pile?
When thinking for oneself became passe...? Mass communications have become all the more massive and monopolized, so all the more Groupthink has been supplanting independent critical thought - and at the same time, it's not as if schools have been teaching how to think so much as WHAT to think -

This systemic epidemic of institutionalized "Dumbth" has been brought to you by America's Real Owners: Nothing suits their purposes better than a populace incapable of questioning authority...
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What ever happened to "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"?
Evidently it's gone the same way as "Don't believe everything you hear."

Anahoo insofar it IS what our system produces? It'd be odd for 'learned' government representatives to display in their ever-so 'helpful' 'caring' way anything OTHER than "Dumbth" to the nth degree!

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