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Good Read! The Poverty of Theistic Morality (1995) Adolf Grünbaum U. of Pittsburgh In this hard-hitting article, Grünbaum critically evaluates the persistent claim that theism can help solve moral crises while secularism only exacerbates them. More specifically, Grünbaum considers two theistic claim...

The Inquisitions were carried out mostly by the Benedictine and Franciscan Orders. Ironic, eh? For extensive links see: Early Modern Europe - The Witch Hunts [Internet Archive of Texts & Documents] http://history.hanover.edu/early/wh.html The Spanish Inquisition was the "milder" of the...

Hi y'all. Missed ya! :) Para-rapa: How's Meta-rapa? I forgot to update my e-mail address so got no notice of any of your posts. Anyway, I'm curious: Dans apparently loved the Notre Dame theologian Alvin Plantinga untill I said I knew his [faulty] arguments well. Guess dans has to think long and hard...

The only out in god-belief is Fideism.

But ya don't get a Holy Writ with that.

And you can't supersize a Clergy.

Aw Shucks!

That's why there are non -Aristotelean forms of logic, including some kinds of 'fuzzy' logic, Korzybski's General Semantics, etc. Some problems cannot be evaluated - logically - as either/or, true/false. In some cases it is becasue the nature of the question is subjective by nature: "Is she pr...

Cool enough rapa. I just wanted to make sure that I understood you correctly. The way I have been using the term 'logic' is in the much more structured sense ... as in Aristotelean or predicate logic. ------------------ -- dansgold The avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote. ...

Not a problem of God's omnipotence? He either CAN do everything or he can not. He makes the rules after all...or maybe not. But you can't have it both ways. IN any case I tend to agree with you; and that is precisely why I don't believe the Bible is of any value beyond any other religious book. The...

How 'bout updating the discussion and talking about the works of Alvin Plantinga? If you read some of the philosophy journals, you'll see that even the most strident atheist logicians have conceded his arguments as being irrefutable. ------------------ -- dansgold The avalanche has started, it is t...

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LisaA: Thank you o Snorrithor; Sometime you ought to tell me how you were when you read the Bible. etc. and how you changed to not being a believer. </font> If one actually has read it, it is obviously not holy writ! The ...

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eliza_ It is the ONLY HONEST way to believe in what cannot be proved or demonstrated. More power to ya! Walt Whitman - below - was no Bible Thumper. ------------------ And the narrowest hinge in my hand puts to scorn all machinery, And the cow crunching with depress'd head surpasses any statue, And ...

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LisaA: If Jesus got a tat, and we don't know that he didn't, what would it be? Aw c'mon I am not being blasphemous, I'm being silly. </font> We do know for certain Jesus could not have had either! He came to follow the La...

Originally posted by dansgold: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mercury: Would anyone sing a different tune if he said: "Oh God Vishnu, bless this family, and may the Great God Ganeesh bless the United States of America with the holy waters of mother...

Despite Aristotle, until the Scientific Revolution - starting in the late 15th Century - True Reality was NOT where we dwell. It was the Heavens (plural: for good theologic reasons) that were real. That is what Plato taught and that Philosophy stayed with us til Modern Times. The Gnostics, throughou...

eliza_nightvoice, Perhaps you are a Fideist. __________ Dans, You obviously don't work in science. It is all about humans trying to find the truth. Humans attack and defend. It's Human Nature http://www.fantasticforum.com/ubb/wink.gif ------------------ And the narrowest hinge in my hand puts to sco...